[Snakster66]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Folks who are fairly new at golf, are often confused by the "goal". Golf is not (at this level) about making good shots ... it's a game of minimizing your bad shots.

Want to try an experiment (I stole it from Tom Watson, so I don't want credit if it works)?

Everyone has a club or 2, they love and seem to hit well most of the time. Go play some day and just use that club, unless you're in the sand or around the green. Use it (or one of 2) for every shot. I'll bet you $5 you'll shoot your best round ever.

Only trouble with that is, those two clubs aren't always the same (for me anyway). But that aside, that's a pretty good idea and would be an interesting thing to try sometime.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Jus played it this morning.
Course is in great shape.

The poor starter at Riley needs to retire.
He was arguing with me as to my name (with my Villages ID in hand).
Argued I was some guy named "Wallinkoski" & I was at the wrong tee time.

Once past him, very nice morning.

You're not Wallinkoski? Could of fooled me. 🙂🙃🙂

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by kkingston57

Most amateurs do something else wrong(like swaying to their right) which lifts their head and after missing the shot they scream I lifted my head.

You may have just saved my game! 😯🤔🤐

[fdpaq0580]

Just a thought after reading an article about balls. I mean golf balls. It got me thinking how technology is constantly improving equipment and how those improvements alter training, playing, range, etc, and ultimately the game itself. As a pro, you compete with others for the "prize". With sponsors designing equipment for you, specifically. As amateurs, we don't have that luxury. As amateurs, we also are told we are competing with ourselves (who am I kidding). Being our best. For low handicap players, it might not be anything wrong with your game, but a change in equipment that will move you up the ranks.
Just the meandering mind of an old guy that loves the game, even though I was never any good at it.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Just a thought after reading an article about balls. I mean golf balls. It got me thinking how technology is constantly improving equipment and how those improvements alter training, playing, range, etc, and ultimately the game itself. As a pro, you compete with others for the "prize". With sponsors designing equipment for you, specifically. As amateurs, we don't have that luxury. As amateurs, we also are told we are competing with ourselves (who am I kidding). Being our best. For low handicap players, it might not be anything wrong with your game, but a change in equipment that will move you up the ranks.
Just the meandering mind of an old guy that loves the game, even though I was never any good at it.

Equipment is nearly irrelevant for the vast majority of golfers. Unless you have physical characteristics that are vastly different than the average person, changing balls or clubs, isn't going to do anything significant to help (or hurt) your game.

About 7-8 years ago, I conducted a "golf ball test". (the entire story is posted on GolfWRX, same user name).

I played 10 rounds with Titleist Pro V1's. Average score was 80.3. Course Rating 71.2, Slope 133.

I played 10 rounds with balls I found in the woods. I only played balls that were in good condition and I would NOT play any top line balls (No Pro V1's, no Srixon Z-Stars, no Taylormade TP's). My average score with the "found in the woods" balls, was 79.8.

All 20 rounds at the same golf course.

For the average golfer, there's not a whit of proof, that "fitting" produces any significant and sustained improvement in score.

Years ago, a guy name Dick Weiss came up with a process called "SST Pure" shaft alignment ((Shaft Stability Technology Precision Unifying and Resonance Enhancing). It was in theory, an improvement of the old "spine align" process and supposed set the shaft in the most "stable" position. 100,000's of clubs have had this process completed, for about $50/shaft, in the hopes that they would become better golfers.

Dick hired a friend of mine to get USGA approval for SST Pure. His analysis proved that there was no inherent improvement in shot dispersion, using SST Pure. At best, it could identify "outlier" shafts that had manufacturing defects. The USGA approved the process. Now a days, shaft manufacturing has improved to the point that there are very few outlier shafts.

It's the Indian, not the Arrow.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

About 7-8 years ago, I conducted a "golf ball test". (the entire story is posted on GolfWRX, same user name).

I conducted the same test this summer, though not intentionally. . .

Playing in Scotland this past summer, I brought one box of high end balls, and lots of cheap balls, some used. I started playing with the high end balls on each course, but after I lost a sleeve of balls by hole number 2, i switched to the cheap Top Elite balls, and lost a sleeve by hole 12. . . or so depending upon the wind and the course.

but the courses had beautiful scenery. . . and i had a couple of pars by the end of the day. none of these were high end courses. . except one. . . a british open qualifier links course where I lost about 2 boxes in the heather




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[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

I conducted the same test this summer, though not intentionally. . .

Playing in Scotland this past summer, I brought one box of high end balls, and lots of cheap balls, some used. I started playing with the high end balls on each course, but after I lost a sleeve of balls by hole number 2, i switched to the cheap Top Elite balls, and lost a sleeve by hole 12. . . or so depending upon the wind and the course.

but the courses had beautiful scenery. . . and i had a couple of pars by the end of the day. none of these were high end courses. . except one. . . a british open qualifier links course where I lost about 2 boxes in the heather

. .

I can't think of another consumer product, more driven by ego, than golf balls. I know plenty of guys who can't break 90, who insist they NEED $55/Dozen Titleist Pro V1's to "play their best game". Nonsense.

If you can't break 80, no golf ball is going to mean more than a stroke or 2 to your average.

My average from the Blue Tees in TV last winter, was around 74-75. I won't pay more than $25/Dozen. I just bought 8 Dozen Maxfli Tours for $22.50 a Dozen ... I should make it January!

[Snakster66]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I can't think of another consumer product, more driven by ego, than golf balls. I know plenty of guys who can't break 90, who insist they NEED $55/Dozen Titleist Pro V1's to "play their best game". Nonsense.

If you can't break 80, no golf ball is going to mean more than a stroke or 2 to your average.

My average from the Blue Tees in TV last winter, was around 74-75. I won't pay more than $25/Dozen. I just bought 8 Dozen Maxfli Tours for $22.50 a Dozen ... I should make it January!

Yep, I dig the Maxfli tours. Or find logo overruns on golfballsdotcom for a good price for anyone who ‘needs’ more well known balls. I liked Vice, but it seems to me their prices have creeped up.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Snakster66

Yep, I dig the Maxfli tours. Or find logo overruns on golfballsdotcom for a good price for anyone who ‘needs’ more well known balls. I liked Vice, but it seems to me their prices have creeped up.

My favorite golf ball is the Vice Pro Plus, but as you noted, the price has gone up significantly, in the last year or so. $32.99 for quantities of 6+ dozen isn't much of a deal.

[Snakster66]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

My favorite golf ball is the Vice Pro Plus, but as you noted, the price has gone up significantly, in the last year or so. $32.99 for quantities of 6+ dozen isn't much of a deal.

That was the one I liked as well. Still okay compared to the big guys, but getting to be more than I can justify when I can get Maxfli for much less and comparable ‘performance’.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Snakster66

That was the one I liked as well. Still okay compared to the big guys, but getting to be more than I can justify when I can get Maxfli for much less and comparable ‘performance’.

You may want to stock up. $110 for 4 Dozen. Site Maintenance

The MSRP on the 2024 Model is now $39.95 ... more than the Vice. Site Maintenance