[Boston-Sean]

FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies. No doubt this will be ignored by many people who will behave like the Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after the war was over.

This piece lays it all out. My favorite graph is this one:

Everything the CDC is now recommending was blasphemy punishable by public shaming, deplatforming and delicensing, all the way up to the day the CDC posted the new guidelines. Every COVID article and fact check ever written is now completely off-script, as are countless public statements made by public health officials.

CDC Backtracks on COVID Guidance as Damning Studies Mount

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies. No doubt this will be ignored by many people who will behave like the Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after the war was over.

This piece lays it all out. My favorite graph is this one:

Everything the CDC is now recommending was blasphemy punishable by public shaming, deplatforming and delicensing, all the way up to the day the CDC posted the new guidelines. Every COVID article and fact check ever written is now completely off-script, as are countless public statements made by public health officials.

CDC Backtracks on COVID Guidance as Damning Studies Mount

It’s very easy to find an article, study, opinion piece, etc…. that supports one’s predetermined perspective about any controversial issue. In my opinion the CDC did the best they could do, while trying to learn and react on the fly to a very serious and unique global pandemic. Sure, some of the things they did might have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight, but that can be said about a lot of things. They had a very difficult job, wayyyyyyyy more difficult than being a Monday morning quarterback.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies. No doubt this will be ignored by many people who will behave like the Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after the war was over.

This piece lays it all out. My favorite graph is this one:

Everything the CDC is now recommending was blasphemy punishable by public shaming, deplatforming and delicensing, all the way up to the day the CDC posted the new guidelines. Every COVID article and fact check ever written is now completely off-script, as are countless public statements made by public health officials.

CDC Backtracks on COVID Guidance as Damning Studies Mount

So what did this paragraph tell you?

"The CDC insists that while COVID-19 infection continues to be a reality around the world, “high levels of vaccine- and infection-induced immunity and the availability of effective treatments and prevention tools have substantially reduced the risk for medically significant COVID-19 illness … and associated hospitalization and death.”"

The risks have evolved since hospitals were overflowing with critically ill people. The situation is far different today since close to 70% of the population are vaccinated and about 70% of the population is exhibiting natural antibodies resulting in significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and death.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

From a little over a year ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjMLONm-Bw

At the 5:40 mark:

Fauci: "If you're vaccinated you don't have a risk. If you're vaccinated you're safe, if you're unvaccinated you're at risk."

Do you need to consult with a physician to determine the meaning of that?


Some people just don't want to face the fact that they were fooled.

Dr. Fauci did say, "your vaccinated, you are safe, you are un-vaccinated you are at risk". That, to me, is the opposite of the proverb I have lived my adult life by which is , Never say "never" and never say "all". That is what he did and his statement has come back to bite him in the ass. I did not see this interview and of course, I have never seen all the interviews these people in high places have conducted over the course of this pandemic.

I can see Dr. Fauci extremely FRUSTRATED in this interview that there are areas of the US that are far below the level of people vaccinated in other countries. I can see he is adamant about firing up the American people to do the right thing so we could stamp out this virus. With all his frustration, I believe he did the wrong thing by saying what he did.

I admit I was wrong. Dr. Fauci sent an incorrect message.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

We don't need GE to weigh in... I'm also a physician...

All you are doing is trying to parse out the 5% failure rate that was initially stated into what they are now saying. Which is that they NEVER said it would prevent one from catching covid, and that it would only lessen the severity and death rate...

That is patently incorrect...

What do you mean by "patently"?

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

From a little over a year ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrjMLONm-Bw

At the 5:40 mark:

Fauci: "If you're vaccinated you don't have a risk. If you're vaccinated you're safe, if you're unvaccinated you're at risk."

Do you need to consult with a physician to determine the meaning of that?


Some people just don't want to face the fact that they were fooled.

There is no way on earth I feel "fooled". This vaccine has saved countless lives. There is no denying that. The vaccines have been proven to offer protection from severe disease and death in people who had a good response from the vaccines.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies. No doubt this will be ignored by many people who will behave like the Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after the war was over.

This piece lays it all out. My favorite graph is this one:

Everything the CDC is now recommending was blasphemy punishable by public shaming, deplatforming and delicensing, all the way up to the day the CDC posted the new guidelines. Every COVID article and fact check ever written is now completely off-script, as are countless public statements made by public health officials.

CDC Backtracks on COVID Guidance as Damning Studies Mount

The Epoch Times Bias and Reliability - Ad Fontes Media

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

It’s very easy to find an article, study, opinion piece, etc…. that supports one’s predetermined perspective about any controversial issue. In my opinion the CDC did the best they could do, while trying to learn and react on the fly to a very serious and unique global pandemic. Sure, some of the things they did might have been done differently with the benefit of hindsight, but that can be said about a lot of things. They had a very difficult job, wayyyyyyyy more difficult than being a Monday morning quarterback.

Agree!

[Flyers999]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Is it possible that because there was a massive effort to vaccinate our population against the polio virus, the virus didn't have much opportunity to mutate? Isn't that the idea of vaccinating the masses and attempting to achieve herd immunity? Asking those who are know more than I do.

Comparing polio to SARS-CoV-2 is comparing apples to oranges. You can’t catch polio by sitting next to someone on a bus. It’s spread via the fecal–oral route. So, if everyone washes their hands and gets a polio vaccine, it goes away. A vaccine cannot eradicate a highly contagious virus like SARS-CoV-2(or Flu). The only way to stop it is the same way the Spanish Flu and SARS-CoV-1 were stopped — by it mutating into a highly contagious benign version that makes one immune to the pernicious versions.

Glad to hear you are OK.

[Boston-Sean]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

The Epoch Times Bias and Reliability - Ad Fontes Media

(See response from a Japanese soldier above)

Yes, how "biased" of them to cite the CDC's actual documents in that article.

Here is the link to the CDC they noted in the footnotes. Perhaps you can show us what they mischaracterized.

Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August 2022 | MMWR

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Flyers999

Comparing polio to SARS-CoV-2 is comparing apples to oranges. You can’t catch polio by sitting next to someone on a bus. It’s spread via the fecal–oral route. So, if everyone washes their hands and gets a polio vaccine, it goes away. A vaccine cannot eradicate a highly contagious virus like SARS-CoV-2(or Flu). The only way to stop it is the same way the Spanish Flu and SARS-CoV-1 were stopped — by it mutating into a highly contagious benign version that makes one immune to the pernicious versions.

Glad to hear you are OK.

Thank you. And.....thank you for the explanation. Makes a lot of sense.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

(See response from a Japanese soldier above)

Yes, how "biased" of them to cite the CDC's actual documents in that article.

Here is the link to the CDC they noted in the footnotes. Perhaps you can show us what they mischaracterized.

Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August 2022 | MMWR

I didn't even read the article. Just looked a the source and that was it. My bad!!!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies. No doubt this will be ignored by many people who will behave like the Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender after the war was over.

This piece lays it all out. My favorite graph is this one:

Everything the CDC is now recommending was blasphemy punishable by public shaming, deplatforming and delicensing, all the way up to the day the CDC posted the new guidelines. Every COVID article and fact check ever written is now completely off-script, as are countless public statements made by public health officials.

CDC Backtracks on COVID Guidance as Damning Studies Mount

I think NO Public health governmental group anywhere on this planet was up to the awful surprise of Covid 19. People were unrealistically demanding answers to questions that no one knew the answers to. It will take several years even now until all of the information is validated and we will still be learning things about this damned virus and hopefully it will not continue to evolve and kill the entire human race. So far we have had some lucky breaks or good planning (Whatever your mind set) in getting the vaccine that made the virus less deadly to the vulnerable older population. There is much to criticise and still much to applaud.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think NO Public health governmental group anywhere on this planet was up to the awful surprise of Covid 19. People were unrealistically demanding answers to questions that no one knew the answers to. It will take several years even now until all of the information is validated and we will still be learning things about this damned virus and hopefully it will not continue to evolve and kill the entire human race. So far we have had some lucky breaks or good planning (Whatever your mind set) in getting the vaccine that made the virus less deadly to the vulnerable older population. There is much to criticise and still much to applaud.

Welcome back, Gracie Girl!!!!

OMG. I thought I would never "see" you again.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

(See response from a Japanese soldier above)

Yes, how "biased" of them to cite the CDC's actual documents in that article.

Here is the link to the CDC they noted in the footnotes. Perhaps you can show us what they mischaracterized.

Summary of Guidance for Minimizing the Impact of COVID-19 on Individual Persons, Communities, and Health Care Systems — United States, August 2022 | MMWR

The misrepresention was the obtuse interpretation of the guidance as previously wrong.

"FYI, the CDC just admitted that everything they've been saying for 2 years about Covid was wrong and/or no longer applies."

Nonsense...

The CDC updated the guidance based on the current situation.

Previous guidance was based on the situation at the time provided.