[Nucky]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

a gentle reminder - (from another post elsewhere)

Imagine being born in 1900.
When you are 14 years old
World War I begins
and ends when you are 18,
with 22 million dead.
Shortly after the world pandemic,
flu called ′′ Spanish ",
killing 50 million people.
You go out alive and free,
and you are 20 years old.
Then at the age of 29 you survive the global economic crisis that started with the collapse of the New York Stock Exchange causing inflation, unemployment and hunger.
Nazis come to power at 33.
You are 39 when world war 2. begins
and it ends when you are 45 during the Holocaust (Shoah), 6 million Jews die.
There will be a total of more than 60 million dead.
When your 52th Korean war begins.
When you are 64, the Vietnam war begins and ends when you are 75.
A baby born in 1985 believes his grandparents have no idea how hard life is,
and survived several wars and disasters.
A boy born in 1995 and 25 today believes that the end of the world when his Amazon package takes more than three days to arrive or if he doesn't exceed 15 likes for his posted photo on Facebook or Instagram...
In 2020., many of us live in comfort, have access to various sources of entertainment at home and often have more than needed.
But people complain about everything.
They have electricity, phone, food, hot water and a roof over their heads.
None of this existed.
But humanity survived much more serious circumstances and never lost the joy of life.

Maybe it's time to be less selfish, stop whining and crying

Spectacular Post! Thank You 🙏!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Escape Artist

I mentioned about the health care workers (nurses, etc.) not wanting to get the vaccine and a poster thought I equated that with the stats on the doctors, which was not my intention. I merely wanted to point out that nurses and other health workers were not on board with the vaccinations and perhaps that was telling in some way.

Same...

[GeriS]

Originally Posted by CFrance

The first is cherry picking out of the bible--and not very relevant to the current situation--to suit one's own belief.


The second is a faith-based opinion that has nothing to do with science, from one of the original anti-vaxxers, talking about small pox vaccination. A hundred--hundred!-- years ago. Opinions and faith-based ideas that differ from what's empirically established is not valid science.

That's exactly the problem. There has been no science to prove masks work, the virus has never been isolated, the creator of the pcr test says it doesn't work, & the vaccines don't either.

[GeriS]

Originally Posted by Cview

Ivermectin was what I wormed my horses with, what kind of doctor prescribes ivermectin for Covid????

ones that know it works along with hcq

[Jack58033]

Kafka lives!

[Jack58033]

How about a drink?

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by GeriS

That's exactly the problem. There has been no science to prove masks work, the virus has never been isolated, the creator of the pcr test says it doesn't work, & the vaccines don't either.

All of this is false. Completely false.

[Ben Franklin]

Originally Posted by CFrance

The first is cherry picking out of the bible--and not very relevant to the current situation--to suit one's own belief.


The second is a faith-based opinion that has nothing to do with science, from one of the original anti-vaxxers, talking about small pox vaccination. A hundred--hundred!-- years ago. Opinions and faith-based ideas that differ from what's empirically established is not valid science.

Knowing that man created all of his goddesses and gods, all 12,000 plus of them makes me a non-religious person, but one who still wants to believe that consciousness survives death. Have you ever heard of Dr. Ian Stevenson and his research on reincarnation? He was responsible for Division of Perceptual Studies at the University of Virginia.

Division of Perceptual Studies | University of Virginia School of Medicine

I am reminded of the saying about god not saving one from harm. This is a slightly different version. A religious person who refused to get the vaccination died and upon getting to the pearly gates asked god why "he" didn't save her. God replied, I tried. I sent you the vaccine.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by GeriS

That's exactly the problem. There has been no science to prove masks work, the virus has never been isolated, the creator of the pcr test says it doesn't work, & the vaccines don't either.

Kinda harsh. Although, like the rest of us you have the right to your opinion.
I believe that masks do FILTER but most that you see would not keep the covid out.
I am not sure what they really know about the virus.
I think you may be pretty close to correct regarding the useless nature of the test. They are reportedly going to discontinue it since they say it can't tell the difference between the flu and the covid.
I hope the vaccines work. For the sake of all that are now going back to normal activities.
That's my opinion on the subject.

[GrumpyOldMan]

An unvaccinated righteous person died and went to heaven. Upon arrival they asked God, why didn't you save me.

God answered, "I tried. I sent you the vaccine."

[lkagele]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

All of this is false. Completely false.

Not exactly. There are studies out there that find masks are not effective, especially the type the majority are wearing. All you have to do is look at them. There are numerous gaps that allow the virus through. The virus goes through the cloth masks. Maybe if worn properly, the N95 masks would work but few are wearing those.

If you want a 'mask' to work, you need a respirator, the type you see body shop painters using. There is a definite seal around the mouth and nose. Air passes through a filter that captures any virus.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Not exactly. There are studies out there that find masks are not effective, especially the type the majority are wearing. All you have to do is look at them. There are numerous gaps that allow the virus through. The virus goes through the cloth masks. Maybe if worn properly, the N95 masks would work but few are wearing those.

If you want a 'mask' to work, you need a respirator, the type you see body shop painters using. There is a definite seal around the mouth and nose. Air passes through a filter that captures any virus.

This. Paper masks, cloth masks and similar can block droplets. They are essentially invisible to aerosols. The predominant mode of transmission of Sars-cov2 is aerosols. There is some droplet transmission, but if you aren't around people sneezing in your mouth, that one is easily avoidable.

Back in 2009, I was painting our house in NJ with an airless sprayer. I bought some of those blue masks, figuring it'd do something. It didn't do anything. My beard under the mask was just as covered as what was outside of the mask.

I used to infrequently paint cars in the late 80s, so I grabbed one of those old smelly full faced ones, put a new filter in it and finished the job.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Originally Posted by lkagele

Not exactly. There are studies out there that find masks are not effective, especially the type the majority are wearing. All you have to do is look at them. There are numerous gaps that allow the virus through. The virus goes through the cloth masks. Maybe if worn properly, the N95 masks would work but few are wearing those.

If you want a 'mask' to work, you need a respirator, the type you see body shop painters using. There is a definite seal around the mouth and nose. Air passes through a filter that captures any virus.

This is the original post: " There has been no science to prove masks work"

That is FALSE. Period.

There is plenty of science to prove masks work. Their "job" is to reduce the chance to spread the virus - either in getting or giving it.

Now, if you want to say, as you did, that some masks are more effective than others. I agree N95 is the most effective generally available mask. But even it has to be fitted correctly.

To make a categorical statement that masks don't work is just misinformation.

[RICH1]

Herd Immunity is a fantasy! Let's stay real and start living life.. if Covid was so bad, all retirement community's would be wiped off the map.. cut back on the smokes and free love

[Bay Kid]

It is so sad that we have become a world that we cannot believe anyone.