[jimbo2012]

That's a good trip, don't know how you can do it in the heat there.

Yes I've been toying with solar for number of years, plan to have two solar golf carts already have the panels that fit perfect for when we move there.

Also will be installing Solar hot water, I also have four panels and tanks already to go.

[l2ridehd]

Being a vegan just makes it seem like you have lived longer.

My plan is eat well, lots of good food, good steak, seafood, and yes vegetables, exercise a lot doing fun things, drink lots of good wine, good loving and probably die younger. But oh the smile and it will seem like I lived a long life because everyday I have enjoyed living.

That's my plan and I am sticking to it.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Being a vegan just makes it seem like you have lived longer.

Not sure why you think that

My plan is eat well, lots of good food, good steak, seafood, and yes vegetables, exercise a lot doing fun things, drink lots of good wine, good loving and probably die younger.

Same idea - My plan is eat well, lots of good food and yes vegetables, exercise a lot doing fun things, drink lots of good wine, good loving and probably live longer.

But oh the smile and it will seem like I lived a long life because everyday I have enjoyed living.

That's my plan and I am sticking to it.

Me too

[Pturner]

1. Enjoy life
2. Feel immense gratitude
3. Make someone else happy everyday
4. Love
5. Be and have good friends
6. Laugh and be joyful
7. Eat healthfully (also drink red wine and eat chocolate)
8. Exercise mind and body

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Being a vegan just makes it seem like you have lived longer.
My plan is eat well, lots of good food, good steak, seafood, and yes vegetables, exercise a lot doing fun things, drink lots of good wine, good loving and probably die younger. But oh the smile and it will seem like I lived a long life because everyday I have enjoyed living.
That's my plan and I am sticking to it.

Originally Posted by Pturner

1. Enjoy life
2. Feel immense gratitude
3. Make someone else happy everyday
4. Love
5. Be and have good friends
6. Laugh and be joyful
7. Eat healthfully (also drink red wine and eat chocolate)
8. Exercise mind and body

I love these happy posts. Attitude is everything! I'm so happy that red wine and chocolate are now on the "healthy" list.

[casita37]

A while back, I picked up a copy of a magazine touting the "fastest-acting diet ever!" It was so simple, and full of food my husband and I like, we decided to give it a try. The entire diet program fit on a half page of the magazine, but it is the base diet of the book, The Blood Sugar Solution, by Mark Hyman, MD.

For 6 weeks....in a nutshell, the following diet, with a few rules.....

No root veggies
No grains
No gluten
No dairy
No caffeine
No alcohol
No sweetener of ANY type, natural or artificial...no matter what the label says.

Breakfast - 2 egg omelet, laden with lots of veggies, using a little extra-virgin olive oil and 1/2 cup berries. There is also a protein shake option, but we enjoy the omelet.

Lunch - 3 oz. your choice of lean protein, including tofu or other vegan options. All the veggies/salad you can eat!!! A few nuts.

Snack - 1/2 avocado or 1/4 cup hummus and unlimited veggies.

Dinner - Same as lunch, minus the nuts, but add 1/2 cup beans.

Drink lots of water and decaf green tea all day.

Multi-vitamin, including calcium, magnesium and 1000mg vit. D.

After 6 weeks, you can add back some of the "nos", but not sweetener. It may seem a bit restrictive, but honestly, it's the easiest and most fulfilling diet plan I've ever tried. I was born hungry!!, but on this plan, I'm fine..you can always have veggies. You would not believe the size of our lunches and dinners.

We were not really overweight, nor do we have high blood sugar. We both just wanted to feel better in our skin. We don't know exactly how much we lost (no scales, and didn't start weighing at Publix until we were into it a couple of weeks), but I estimate 12 lbs +/-, for each of us.

The book goes into a lot of detail about supplements, but I really found the magazine version of the diet much easier to understand. It was the March 19 issue of Woman's World, if interested.

At the risk of going on too long, I will add...we went on a cruise recently. We ate bread, sauces, desserts, etc., including wine. I gained a couple of pounds. Went back on the plan as soon as we got home, and one week home had lost 4 pounds.

We are in the process now of adding back some of the no-no's, a little at a time, hopefully balancing out a permanent healthy plan, which includes exercise and other healthful lifestyle choices.

I buy organic whenever possible, and some items I just pass on it, if I can't get organic ("the dirty dozen"), plus only hormone/antibiotic free meats. We have an R/O filter on our drinking water.

I stopped coloring my hair and am working on easing in more natural health and beauty aids. We don't smoke and we do wear sunscreen.

Sorry to be so long-winded! I enjoy this topic and look forward to hearing more healthy/longevity plans from others.

[jimbo2012]

It's a better diet than many have but one thing to look at when following a diet is what is the author selling is it just his book to pass on his academic knowledge or market products.

If its products, a red flag should popup see Dr. Hyman's web site is selling a bunch, not that that's necessarily wrong just use caution following.
His backround is in family medicine not nutrition.

You listed several no items, but all of those are yes items except dairy, in a vegan diet, in fact there are more choices for your meals.

I think you owe it to yourself to investigate further for just what is right for you there are many choices.

If you like this one stick with it.

[asianthree]

Today i have stopped running, my knees are just very unhappy for now

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

Being a vegan just makes it seem like you have lived longer.

Eating the wrong foods and then suffering from painful degenerative diseases will also make it seem as though you have lived longer.

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Eating the wrong foods and then suffering from painful degenerative diseases will also make it seem as though you have lived longer.

That is a debatable subject. And there will never be a winner.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Don't let the fear of the inevitable cause you to live obsessively.

I appreciate your participation in this thread. However, I have to object somewhat to the above statement. I know, I often make assumptions myself but the above statement has a couple of assumptions that I don't quite get. Assumption # 1) those of us who are interested in health are interested because we fear death. I guess that means those who are less interested in health do not fear death? Assumption # 2) Those who are interested in the science of health are obsessing.

Well, you don't usually hear the word "obsession" applied to many other things like golf, for example. If someone plays a lot of golf, takes golf lessons and tries to perfect their game, we don't usually hear people say they are being obsessive. Most likely they will be given credit for making the effort to be good at the activity of their choice. The same goes for most other activities.

But if one has an interest in living a healthy lifestyle, enjoys reading about health and talking about health, that's defined as being "obsessive". And it must be because the person fears death.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

That is a debatable subject. And there will never be a winner.

Exactly! I was demonstrating absurdity by being absurd. I'm always amazed why people keep perpetuating the absurd satatment that life only seems longer when you eat a healthy diet.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by zcaveman

That is a debatable subject. And there will never be a winner.

Well that was true years ago but today there in enough scientific proof that demonstrates what foods are doing causing damage to our bodies.

Dairy, contains casein now know to be a leading cause of cancer.

T. Colin Campbell's The China Study (2005), a book about one of the largest nutritional studies ever conducted, describes a direct correlation between casein administered to rats and the promotion of cancer cell growth when exposed to carcinogens. Aflatoxin (a potent carcinogen) was administered to these rats over a 2 week dosing period. The rats were given a 1 week post-dosing period before beginning the test (promotion period). During the promotion period, one group of rats was put on a 5% casein protein diet and another group on a 20% casein protein diet. None of the rats on 5% casein protein developed foci, precursors to cancerous cell growth, and every rat on 20% casein protein developed the pre-cancer foci. It should be noted that all test groups were fed a 20% casein diet for a total of 5 weeks (2-wk acclimation, 2-wk dosing, 1-wk post-dosing) prior to the 12 week promotion period in order to survive the initial aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) dosing, regardless of whether they were in the 5% or 20% test groups.

Other studies conducted by Dr. Campbell on humans confirmed this correlation between the amount of casein protein consumed and the promotion of cancerous cell growth. Dr. Campbell claims to have found a correlation between cancer growth and the amount of casein protein in diet.A 2001 study suggests another milk protein, whey protein, but not casein, may play a protective role against colon tumors in rats. According to a study from the Australian Dairy Council, casein has antimutagenic effects.

Do you think oil such as olive is healthy? see

It damages the endothyium lining of your blood vessels, in so doing plaque attaches to those damage areas causes Arteriosclerosis; Plaque buildup and high blood pressue, this is NOT debatable it has been proven. Ask Bill Clinton.

A plant based diet rids the body of this excess plaque lower blood pressure to the point of no BP meds. Aiding in the prevention of heart attacks and strokes.

These are facts documented the movie "Forks over Knives" get a copy.

No we will not live for ever that up to you know who, here are many others issues resolved by a vegan diet, it all about the quality of your retirement years-active healthy or sedentary on meds.

Example my cholesterol is 124, tri's 140, BP 110/70, and yes i have drinks and enjoy foods that if you tried you would not know they are vegan.

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[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Well that was true years ago but today there in enough scientific proof that demonstrates what foods are doing causing damage to our bodies.

Dairy, contains casein now know to be a leading cause of cancer.

[I]T. Colin Campbell's The China Study (2005), a book about one of the largest nutritional studies ever conducted, describes a direct correlation between casein administered to rats and the promotion of cancer cell growth when exposed to carcinogens.

I read the book in May of 2006. By the time I got to chapter 3 I was switching my diet to vegan. My father and brother died of prostate cancer, two Aunts and and a few uncles, and two cousins died of liver cancer at age 60. I'm sure I missed a few but there have been so many I'm losing track of them.

Being that I'm fairly flexable with my diet, switching over to vegan was not a big problem. It took about 4 to 6 weeks to get used to it because I had to rethink how I was going to structure my meals. Now after 7 years it's all routine (and enjoyable).

Do you think oil such as olive is healthy? see

It damages the endothyium lining of your blood vessels, in so doing plaque attaches to those damage areas causes Arteriosclerosis; Plaque buildup and high blood pressue, this is NOT debatable it has been proven. Ask Bill Clinton.

I have never heard that before and I do extensive reading. Of course Dr. Dean Ornish doesn't want heart patients to use any oil of any kind. I know that, but he never said that it damages the endothelium. If true, that's a surprise to me.

My ancestors lived in, and came from, southern Italy. They have always used extra virgin olive oil and there hasn't been any heart disease in my large extended family. I use it but only very little, like one teaspoon for lunch and one for dinner.

Example my cholesterol is 124, tri's 140, BP 110/70, and yes i have drinks and enjoy foods that if you tried you would not know they are vegan.

I have always had good blood test results on everything including cholesterol and my resting blood pressure is 100/50.

[casita37]

jimbo, The "nos" on the blood sugar solution diet are only nos for the first 6 weeks. Then you add them back gradually, except sugar/sweeteners. Remember, the book is primarily for diabetics/pre-diabetics.

Also, the diet plan I outlined is the advanced version. The basic version already includes limited amounts of the "nos".

The idea is to clear out the system and then as you add back, keep track of how you feel, how your weight fluctuates and how your sugar levels react, etc., so you can determine if a particular food is not right for you and limit it accordingly. Kind of like testing for allergies.

Dr. Hyman does push a LOT of supplements, even naming brands and where to buy (links from his own site). I ignore a lot of that. Same with Dr. Oz. Love his show, but really....if anyone took everything he recommends, they wouldn't be able to eat. Too full of supplements and too broke to buy food!! LOL