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Old 06-14-2020, 07:19 PM
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The sooner we get back to 100% open the sooner we will know what we are really dealing with.

The increased testing (?) supposedly contributes to higher incidences.

The problem we see is us elders (early 80's) will have to REMAIN conservatively vigilante until there is a vaccine.

There will not be another lock down.

We will learn to live with what ever numbers result just like we do with the flu, auto deaths, et al.
Increased testing contributes to higher incidences? Hahaha. You are SO funny.

Nationwide statistics already hint at which states are slumping on the testing. The important number should be the % of deaths per total positives. Florida skimped on the testing so it shows a higher % of deaths per positives. The more general testing to locate the asymptomatic COVID carriers, the lower the percent deaths would be for Florida. Many Govs realized this.

At any rate, our numbers are still climbing so be careful.
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Got stuck in a rally at LSL this afternoon. No one, and I mean no one, had a mask. I realize they were in golf carts but come on, yes it’s going to be around for a while but let’s not be stupid people!
Of late, and since I can't change their minds anyway, I'm leaning more toward "if a certain part of the herd wants to thin themselves out...let'em go for it."

I'll just keep wearing my mask and do everything possible to avoid others, especially those...who don't seem to care about anyone but themselves
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Yesterday, there was one additional case reported "near the Villages". It was in Lady Lake. So far the number of cases in The Villages has remained stagnant. Mo new cases in the past week in spite of more testing.
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Got stuck in a rally at LSL this afternoon. No one, and I mean no one, had a mask. I realize they were in golf carts but come on, yes it’s going to be around for a while but let’s not be stupid people!
I'll say it again. The Corona Task Force has stated that the risk of contracting the virus outdoors is very low and it is almost impossible to contract it when the temperature is above 77 degrees F.

Am I the only one that has heard this report?
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:53 AM
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I remain cautious, my husband is in a Memory Care facility and I haven’t seen him (except through the window) since the beginning of March. I just got tested (negative) as a requirement for going to his room and seeing him in person. I will also need to remain cautious when I am not in the facility. I am so thankful that we are finally getting to this point because this sweet people in memory care facilities have no contact with their loved ones and don’t understand. Many are declining and many are dying. Where they live I call God’s Waiting Room. They won’t be getting better.
So everyone has their own story or reality, let’s respect each other’s opinion and view.
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Old 06-16-2020, 07:42 AM
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81 cases in TV, since the start of Coronavirus. That is people who have tested positive. Not in the hospital. Not dead. Out of approximately 150,000 people. That's .012 percent.
The right metric is deaths over total outcomes. Until we know the outcome of those that tested positive for COVID-19, we don't know much. They might recover or they might die, we have to wait to find out. But if we know the total number of deaths and the number of recovered then we can determine the death rate.
If we go with about 3,000 deaths and 23,000 recovered in Fl, then we get 23,000 + 3,000 = 26,000 (Total outcomes). 3,000 / 26,000 = .115 or 11.5%.

So about 12 people out of 100 die.
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Increased testing contributes to higher incidences? Hahaha. You are SO funny.

Nationwide statistics already hint at which states are slumping on the testing. The important number should be the % of deaths per total positives. Florida skimped on the testing so it shows a higher % of deaths per positives. The more general testing to locate the asymptomatic COVID carriers, the lower the percent deaths would be for Florida. Many Govs realized this.

At any rate, our numbers are still climbing so be careful.
Sorry to disagree, but the number of deaths is irrelevant. For one thing it will be tied to the demographics of the area. In an area with an elderly population like The Villages we can expect to see a much higher death rate.
The other thing that the death rate doesn't take into consideration is the number of people hospitalized, or the number of people whose lungs have been permanently damaged by ventilators.
Where do you get that Florida has skimped on testing?
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The right metric is deaths over total outcomes. Until we know the outcome of those that tested positive for COVID-19, we don't know much. They might recover or they might die, we have to wait to find out. But if we know the total number of deaths and the number of recovered then we can determine the death rate.
If we go with about 3,000 deaths and 23,000 recovered in Fl, then we get 23,000 + 3,000 = 26,000 (Total outcomes). 3,000 / 26,000 = .115 or 11.5%.

So about 12 people out of 100 die.
Might want to contact the CDC about your calculations. Their current overall death rate for all age groups is 0.4%. The only age group over 1% death rate is over 65 at 1.3%

When you include CDC projected 35% additional asymptomatic cases, the overall death rate for all ages is .26%

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