[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by kendi

Hmmm 🤔. The person is simply stating their perspective on how the virus manifests in society. I don’t see anything in that post indicating they do not feel compassion for those who who get sick and/or die. Or for their families.

Respectfully disagree. Marine1974 response was to Eldiablo whose whole first paragraph was ridiculing folks who actually take their health and efforts to protect it seriously. To me, that indicates lack of compassion.
Read both again and see if you come away with a different opinion.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Got my booster yesterday. Several people I knew died from Covid. Others now suffer from Long Covid.

You are a smartmanaboutown!

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Bugface

Unfortunately the purpose of that guidance was to keep the economy running and people working. It usually takes twice that length of time to not be contagious and the only way to know for sure is to test.

Those who are at risk need to take precautions. Since they took some parts I was fond of many years back (including part of my lung), I do what I must to be as safe as possible. I would never ask to shut down the economy for me and those with issues such as I have. There should be no arguing, name calling, insulting each other. Take care of yourself. If you think a mask helps, go for it. Same with the shot.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Pachine58

Start eating carnivore and build your immunity. Plus all the other great benefits of a carnivore lifestyle. It’s like turning back time.

Eat what you like. I prefer omnivore. Hope you won't mind.

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I believe you. The vaccine is not supposed to prevent you from getting Covid (in my understanding) but to prevent you from dying and to allow you quality of life afterwards.

You know when they started saying it's not meant to prevent you from getting Covid? After they found out it doesn't prevent you from getting Covid. I had a lot of friends lose their career over not getting a vaccine that, ultimately, was found to not prevent infection nor transmission.

Being someone with a bit of biology background, I'd also argue that it has become less virulent as a normal evolutionary trait of viruses, rather than vaccines having any effect. I know a few unvaccinated that have gotten Covid recently and their symptoms were about the same as vaccinated.

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by Velvet

When life expectancy was 33 years old? Heck, they didn’t even need a 55 plus retirement community!

I reversed my Type 2 pre-diabetes. I corrected my hypertension. I corrected my high cholesterol. All from keto/carnivore diet. When life expectency was 33 they didn't die from heart disease. They got eaten by lions and died from infections, or other non cardiac events.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Pennyt

Sitting in a hospice unit now. Nurses advised they are now being advised they have to accept Covid patients. One came in yesterday and passed away the same day. Some people get over it easily but some don't. I'll wear a n94 mask and take the vaccine. As we age the risk rises. True of the flu AND true of COVID. I don't want to risk my life knowing I didn't do whatever I could. So if I'm in a crowded situation I'll protect myself. If I have any symptoms I will stay home.

Excellent Attitude. I fail to see how anyone could criticize you for your view. My doctors and I decided against the shot, you decide to get it, God Bless. Stay Safe and be happy.

[Whitley]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

This is a popular opinion of those who didn't die. Those that did might argue the fact. Play it safe get a shot......in this way your opinion will continue to get heard.................govt. still provides 4 free covid tests...........dont blame them for your negligence...........protect yourself.......

Rich, my business partner died at 58. Never had a heart issue prior to the covid shots and every booster that came out. He was fanatical about being first in line to get every shot available. Cardiologist saw some previously undiagnosed issue and scheduled him for an outpatient test. His wife was out of state so I went with him to the hosp. He never came out. Not alive. Saying "stay safe avoid the shot" would be as dishonest as saying "stay safe everyone get the shot". Take your specific variables into account and make your own choice.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by frayedends

I reversed my Type 2 pre-diabetes. I corrected my hypertension. I corrected my high cholesterol. All from keto/carnivore diet. When life expectency was 33 they didn't die from heart disease. They got eaten by lions and died from infections, or other non cardiac events.

You corrected high cholesterol on a red meat diet? You a super human!

[Velvet]

And He also created us with the ability to think, to research, to help each other….

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Pegasusprt

It's so easy to fool people, but it's almost impossible to convince them that they have been fooled.

True words. Much easier on the ego to seek out allies for your particular point of view than to admit to being bamboozled.

Extending that out a bit...what good does it do, really, to publicly cling to your fears no matter what? Of course COVID is real. So is chlamydia, leprosy, diabetes, flu, Alzheimer's, etc. etc. The best thing to do in all cases is to adopt a dispassionate approach, take common-sense precautions and go on with your life so far as you are able. Who really cares if everyone else agrees with you? But just from my own experience: I've seen a guy at Costco in Altamonte Springs go into screaming hysterics at the sight of another customer whose mask had slipped down below is nose, another guy at a supermarket back in Minnesota loudly and publicly berate the store manager for not completely sanitizing every grocery cart prior to it's next use, one guy in a foursome we were in long after mask-wearing became optional becoming upset because we were not wearing masks and he was, etc. etc. My daughter (a nurse in St. Paul, MN) knows several people who a couple of years back got themselves tested almost daily at medical facilities in the area (which were consequently so backed up with The Fearful that people who really did need medical help had to wait, sometimes to their significant detriment). But the one that most sticks in my mind was a guy I encountered at a driving range in May 2020. He had his son with him and they were going to hit some balls. The guy's son remained in the car while the guy, wearing a mask of course, went to the owner and demanded a spot on the range as far away from other patrons as possible. Not a problem because there were only a couple of other folks there, but until the guy got his wish his son remained in the car, and then both stayed as far away from other patrons as they could. I knew the owner and mentioned that it was kind of odd. The owner, who apparently knew the guy, said that that incident was nothing: the guy had kept his family basically sealed in their house since I believe February, doing all the shopping, providing homeschooling for the kids, etc. etc. The outing with his son was the first time the kid had been allowed out of the house in months.

I've often wondered if fear of COVID is/was at least as destructive, if not more so, than COVID itself. And people who are looking for allies to validate their own fear certainly aren't helping much.

[Dusty_Star]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

True words. Much easier on the ego to seek out allies for your particular point of view than to admit to being bamboozled.

Extending that out a bit...what good does it do, really, to publicly cling to your fears no matter what? Of course COVID is real. So is chlamydia, leprosy, diabetes, flu, Alzheimer's, etc. etc. The best thing to do in all cases is to adopt a dispassionate approach, take common-sense precautions and go on with your life so far as you are able. Who really cares if everyone else agrees with you? But just from my own experience: I've seen a guy at Costco in Altamonte Springs go into screaming hysterics at the sight of another customer whose mask had slipped down below is nose, another guy at a supermarket back in Minnesota loudly and publicly berate the store manager for not completely sanitizing every grocery cart prior to it's next use, one guy in a foursome we were in long after mask-wearing became optional becoming upset because we were not wearing masks and he was, etc. etc. My daughter (a nurse in St. Paul, MN) knows several people who a couple of years back got themselves tested almost daily at medical facilities in the area (which were consequently so backed up with The Fearful that people who really did need medical help had to wait, sometimes to their significant detriment). But the one that most sticks in my mind was a guy I encountered at a driving range in May 2020. He had his son with him and they were going to hit some balls. The guy's son remained in the car while the guy, wearing a mask of course, went to the owner and demanded a spot on the range as far away from other patrons as possible. Not a problem because there were only a couple of other folks there, but until the guy got his wish his son remained in the car, and then both stayed as far away from other patrons as they could. I knew the owner and mentioned that it was kind of odd. The owner, who apparently knew the guy, said that that incident was nothing: the guy had kept his family basically sealed in their house since I believe February, doing all the shopping, providing homeschooling for the kids, etc. etc. The outing with his son was the first time the kid had been allowed out of the house in months.

I've often wondered if fear of COVID is/was at least as destructive, if not more so, than COVID itself. And people who are looking for allies to validate their own fear certainly aren't helping much.

Excellent post. The fear & anxiety in society was debilitating. I was sincerely hoping it was all over, for good. (At least for this time).

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

No stupid judgment, please. Just assume I look better with the mask on, and let it go at that. As for the vaccine, one of my hobbies is getting poked with needles. Acupuncture is fun! Gimme the shot.

Go for it. Wear your mask and get shot #10. Covid is much like the flu and it’s not going anywhere. Hope the OP gets over it quickly.

[ffresh]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Many doctors with "real world experience" as well as health departments of other countries have arrived at different conclusions concerning the shot and it's safety. In the US, health officials recommend that everyone over the age of 6 months receives the latest annual covid-19 vaccine, while the UK and other European countries are restricting it to older or vulnerable people. I would propose all reconsider their attitude and treatment of others who disagree with you.

Choose the topic and you'll find the same reaction from MANY people. They cannot conceive of the possibility that they could be wrong

Fred

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by Velvet

You corrected high cholesterol on a red meat diet? You a super human!

I am not super human. Meat is not the problem. You must be living on old news. Sugar and carbs are the cause of most all our woes.