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[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by jimbo2012

Can you please give us your opinion as to why?



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He follows Dr Dean Ornish, Dr. Esseltyn, Dr. Colin Campbell

Google any of those names

If you wish to mitigate your risks of debilitating ailments which preclude you from enjoying the active lifestyle you desired by living here and enjoying your life in a healthy state of being at least have an open mind to understanding the benefits of vegetarian or vegan diets.

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I agree with you 100%. Many years ago I studied Pritikin and Ornish. I myself don't give a damn what other people eat and I don't preach or even mention it. I listen to people talk about the great fried food at several restaurants, and while I'd love to eat them I don't. Go to one of the pools or even the squares and try to find a person of normal weight.

[renielarson]

[QUOTE=Villages PL;501869]"To a certain extent, people are being dumbed down by the food industry and the media..."

I agree with you Villages PL!

For those people who think they eat healthier than vegetarians and vegans, this is food for thought:

Have you heard about "chicken litter" being fed to cows and how you are ingesting it with every beef bite you take?

I don't deny I'm a beef eater although I eat it only occasionally. I wish I could stop eating it...but...I don't have the will power my vegan son has.

Nevertheless, every time I eat beef, I think about the chicken manure, chicken feathers, antibiotics, and cow parts (cyclical because of cow parts being made into chicken feed that chickens eat and then are returned to cows via chicken litter) that are now used to create feed that cows are fed. I know I'm risking mad cow disease with every bite because cow eating cow increases my risk...and yours.

My question to beef eaters...are we healthier eaters than vegans and vegetarians? To those who think so...you need to do your research.

Boy howdy!

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by flipflopz

I agree with you Villages PL!

For those people who think they eat healthier than vegetarians and vegans, this is food for thought:

Have you heard about "chicken litter" being fed to cows and how you are ingesting it with every beef bite you take?

I don't deny I'm a beef eater although I eat it only occasionally. I wish I could stop eating it...but...I don't have the will power my vegan son has.

Nevertheless, every time I eat beef, I think about the chicken manure, chicken feathers, antibiotics, and cow parts (cyclical because of cow parts being made into chicken feed that chickens eat and then are returned to cows via chicken litter) that are now used to create feed that cows are fed. I know I'm risking mad cow disease with every bite because cow eating cow increases my risk...and yours.

My question to beef eaters...are we healthier eaters than vegans and vegetarians? To those who think so...you need to do your research.

Boy howdy!

Whenever I look at large-scale population studies where they make comparisons between vegans and those who eat animal protein, the vegans always show up as being healthier. There's no question about it.

Now that I know what I know, from my extensive reading, I'm not willing to take the risk of eating animal protein. If I eat out once or twice per month, I will have a little turkey or fish but that's about it. I never bring any of that home from the supermarket. And I never bring home any processed foods either.

Thanks for your post. It serves as a good reminder of all that goes on to make meat eating all the more risky.

[lightworker888]

We do our best to eat "healthy" and the issue of cows being fed other animal products doesn't apply to all beef. If you choose your sources, you can get healthy beef, chicken and even pork - all hormone and antibiotic free and raised on a "good" diet. Some people need animal protein, particularly O blood types, but like everything else moderation is the key. Even a vegan diet needs to be researched and properly sourced to avoid toxicity.

It is refreshing to see that there are so many nutrition conscious people on the board. A few years ago the topic probably wouldn't even be discussed let alone debated, so there has been a shift in consciousness. From what I hear and see, at least the generation of young ones are getting educated on the importance of eating "healthy" and hopefully can make better choices.

I've always believed that our job as parents is to walk our talk so after doing your own research, the best thing any of us can do for ourselves and our kids is to follow a diet that we believe is the most healthful. Each person has to find that one out for him/herself and I don't believe it is necessarily a one size fits all thing. But again moderation is key. I guess I better get off the soap box.


LW888

[ariel]

I haven't eaten mammals in nearly three years. Don't really miss it much. Still eat fish, chicken/turkey. Hubby still eats meat, so preparing meals gets interesting sometimes. It would be nice to attend culinary classes that teach plant-based diet and food prep. With all the clubs in TV, are there any related to nutrition?

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by ariel

I haven't eaten mammals in nearly three years. Don't really miss it much. Still eat fish, chicken/turkey. Hubby still eats meat, so preparing meals gets interesting sometimes. It would be nice to attend culinary classes that teach plant-based diet and food prep. With all the clubs in TV, are there any related to nutrition?

I think there are at least two vegan clubs in The Villages. You would have to try them to see if you like them. I have never attended.

[lightworker888]

Another thought is that if you are eating anything with an attitude of fear then that will also affect your ability to assimilate it "healthfully". So it is important to choose foods that you eat to support yourself healthfully rather than choosing them because you are afraid of the consequences of not eating them. If you truly enjoy a "good" steak, then it probably would do you more good than to hate every mouthful of salad. There are so many connection within the brain that affect how we utilize our food, that it is not just a simple choice of one type of diet over another.

Emotional eating is a huge contributor to the obesity problem as are the various lobby groups advertising to the uneducated masses.
There is no simple answer but it is good that at least the questions are being asked and the situation is being studied.

It is interesting to speculate what would happen if all the major corporations and lobbyists were out of the picture and if the masses could see how they are being led. But that is a whole other discussion.

LW888

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by lightworker888

We do our best to eat "healthy" and the issue of cows being fed other animal products doesn't apply to all beef. If you choose your sources, you can get healthy beef, chicken and even pork - all hormone and antibiotic free and raised on a "good" diet. Some people need animal protein, particularly O blood types, but like everything else moderation is the key. Even a vegan diet needs to be researched and properly sourced to avoid toxicity.

It is refreshing to see that there are so many nutrition conscious people on the board. A few years ago the topic probably wouldn't even be discussed let alone debated, so there has been a shift in consciousness. From what I hear and see, at least the generation of young ones are getting educated on the importance of eating "healthy" and hopefully can make better choices.

I've always believed that our job as parents is to walk our talk so after doing your own research, the best thing any of us can do for ourselves and our kids is to follow a diet that we believe is the most healthful. Each person has to find that one out for him/herself and I don't believe it is necessarily a one size fits all thing. But again moderation is key. I guess I better get off the soap box.


LW888

Yes, you can find healthier beef. Wish I had more time to talk about it. Maybe later.

I am type O and did go back to eating meat briefly. Didn't care for it that much though. So I'm back to veganism and enjoying it very much.

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

I think there are at least two vegan clubs in The Villages.

There are 3 clubs that I know of.
"Eating in the Raw" 1-3 p.m. on the second Tuesday of each month at SeaBreeze

"Achieve Better Health" meets @7 at Laurel Manor Recreation Center. Info - to johnrichards@comcast.net » or 259-0420

"Healthy Choice" This one is vegan gets about 20-30 once a month with a basic pot luck. Kea borrerokae@hotmail.com.

Maybe they should be made aware of the few threads here


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[ilovetv]

Signs of Orthorexia

Do you suffer from Orthorexia? According to The National Eating Disorders Association, three telltale signs of a problem with Orthorexia are:

• You spend an overwhelming amount of time and energy trying to eat healthfully
  
• Eating foods other than those considered healthy and self-approved results in feelings of guilt or even self loathing
  
• You use your dietary plan and your control over the foods you eat as a tool to avoid dealing with other issues in your life
  
• Other warning signs of the disorder include:
  
• No longer consuming many foods which you consider to be unhealthy
  
• Allowing yourself to eat only a few types of foods
  
• Seeking virtuousness from eating
  
• Finding that the way you eat has a negative influence on the quality of your life
  
• Experiencing some degree of social isolation due to your preoccupation with a strict healthy diet (for example, rarely being able to eat socially with people)
  
• Judging others for the way they eat."

Orthorexia: An Unhealthy Obsession with Healthy Eating

[jimbo2012]

Originally Posted by lightworker888

Some people need animal protein, particularly O blood types

Do you have more info on that?

Is it from eating for your blood type?

It was my understanding it was myth, especially since my darling wife is Type O.

But I would like to learn more about what you know on the issue.

[lightworker888]

The info that I have re Eating for your blood type is from the book as well as from other practitioners. However more recently I saw on Dr. Mercola's site (mercola.com) an article of interest that addresses this issue of diet very well. I have pasted in the link and hope you can click on it, but it may have to be cut and pasted.

Myths and Information About Vegetarianism

Dr. Mercola researches everything extensively before publishing info. I have found that information is on his site sometimes 5 years ahead of the public media (eg. Vit D necessity and deficiency implications.) His newsletter is full of very valuable information that has been well documented. He also has great video clips of talks with major contributors and researchers in all areas of health and wellness.

LW888

[renielarson]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Signs of Orthorexia

Do you suffer from Orthorexia? According to The National Eating Disorders Association, three telltale signs of a problem with Orthorexia are:

• You spend an overwhelming amount of time and energy trying to eat healthfully
  
• Eating foods other than those considered healthy and self-approved results in feelings of guilt or even self loathing
  
• You use your dietary plan and your control over the foods you eat as a tool to avoid dealing with other issues in your life
  
• Other warning signs of the disorder include:
  
• No longer consuming many foods which you consider to be unhealthy
  
• Allowing yourself to eat only a few types of foods
  
• Seeking virtuousness from eating
  
• Finding that the way you eat has a negative influence on the quality of your life
  
• Experiencing some degree of social isolation due to your preoccupation with a strict healthy diet (for example, rarely being able to eat socially with people)
  
• Judging others for the way they eat."

Orthorexia: An Unhealthy Obsession with Healthy Eating

I don't judge others for the way they eat but I do have an issue with those who say they eat healthier than vegans or vegetarians. Maybe they do, maybe they don't but it's very judgmental to actually say that when they don't know the diets of those who choose not to eat meat and/or dairy products.