[Boomer]

I am glad that BuckeyeNuts started this thread. This topic is so important. I know I already preached here this morning, but here I am back. Diabetes is a hot button with me. I have seen a lot of it.

When I checked back in, just now, I saw that a couple of other things have come up here as the thread continues.

Insulin pumps. Mr. Boomer's family has two Type I diabetics, both now in their 60's. Both have had insulin pumps for quite a while and have called them "life changing." Both are thin and try to take care of themselves, but they have had the disease for more than 50 years. We are all so glad the pump has worked out so well for them.

We have a friend who is a Type II. Unlike the friend I wrote about this morning, this one has struggled to diet and exercise. An active organizational social life and lots of white food meals out did not help I know. His diagnosis was more than 10 years ago. He finally had to start insulin, but now his doctor is having difficulty adjusting his insulin dose effectively. He is looking into a pump, but insurance companies seem to really give Type II diabetics a hard time about paying for a pump.

Depression has been mentioned here, too. A diabetic, Type I or Type II, probably knows that moods can be a problem sometimes. Blood sugar swings can play havoc with mood. Sometimes I can be pretty bossy if I think I need to be. I know I can act like Lucy in "Peanuts," but not all the time, just when I think it could be really important. Anyway, I actually made someone I know go for a blood test because his moods had become so erratic. Guess what. Type II.

At least a pre-diabetes reading may turn out to be quite manageable. There is so much good information available. And hospitals often have classes. Learn everything you can.

And again, good luck to you BuckeyeNuts. And thanks for starting the discussion here.

Boomer Lucy

[villager99]

a good resource is the villages diabetes support group that meets monthly at la hacienda. check the thursday rec news for times and meeting guest speakers

[The Great Fumar]

IF YOUR DOCTOR IS TELLING YOU THAT YOUR PRE-DIABETIC THEN YOU HAD BETTER PAY ATTENTION....HE IS NOT JUST WATCHING YOUR BLOOD SUGAR, HE IS WATCHING YOUR HEMOGLOBIN AIC HE WANTS IT BETWEEN 4.2AND 5.8 .....IF YOU ARE 5.9 OR ABOVE , YOU ARE PRE-DIABETIC .....NOW HE WANTS YOU TO WATCH YOUR BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS AND THROUGH DIET AND EXERCISE HE WANTS THEM BELOW 100 .......THIS CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE ITS NOT JUST WATCHING YOUR SUGAR INTAKE , ITS YOUR CARB INTAKE....THEY TURN TO SUGAR BIG TIME , (for example ) PASTA'S ARE A BAD FOOD SO YOU HAVE TO CUT WAY DOWN ON IT.....
NOW, WHY DO WE GO TO ALL THIS TROUBLE, HEART AND KIDNEYS NOT TO MENTION YOUR CIRCULATION ......
NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYONE BUT IF YOUR DOCTOR GIVES YOU ADVICE, THEN TAKE IT, HE DEALS WITH IT EVERYDAY AND KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.....
MY ADVISE , PAY ATTENTION , IT COULD GIVE YOU A NICE LONG LIFE.


FUMAR ..

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by The Great Fumar

IF YOUR DOCTOR IS TELLING YOU THAT YOUR PRE-DIABETIC THEN YOU HAD BETTER PAY ATTENTION....HE IS NOT JUST WATCHING YOUR BLOOD SUGAR, HE IS WATCHING YOUR HEMOGLOBIN AIC HE WANTS IT BETWEEN 4.2AND 5.8 .....IF YOU ARE 5.9 OR ABOVE , YOU ARE PRE-DIABETIC .....NOW HE WANTS YOU TO WATCH YOUR BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS AND THROUGH DIET AND EXERCISE HE WANTS THEM BELOW 100 .......THIS CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE ITS NOT JUST WATCHING YOUR SUGAR INTAKE , ITS YOUR CARB INTAKE....THEY TURN TO SUGAR BIG TIME , (for example ) PASTA'S ARE A BAD FOOD SO YOU HAVE TO CUT WAY DOWN ON IT.....
NOW, WHY DO WE GO TO ALL THIS TROUBLE, HEART AND KIDNEYS NOT TO MENTION YOUR CIRCULATION ......
NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYONE BUT IF YOUR DOCTOR GIVES YOU ADVICE, THEN TAKE IT, HE DEALS WITH IT EVERYDAY AND KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.....
MY ADVISE , PAY ATTENTION , IT COULD GIVE YOU A NICE LONG LIFE.


FUMAR ..

[ouma1938]

The Great Fumar speaks the truth. Type 2 diabetes can be controlled and even reversed. Check you blood before and after eating, frequently, and have you A1C checked by your doctor regularly. Mr. Ouma was all set to have lapband surgery to lose weight and control his diabetes when they realised that he had had very extensive surgery 3 years ago to remove a tumor on his bile duct. The area was left with a lot of scar tissue so it was decided that the lapband procedure would be too dangerous. I was devastated but then Mr. Ouma announced that he would lose the same amount of weight without the lapband....and by golly he did. His sugar levels are now below 110 - down from the high 200's and low 300's - and his doctor says that the diabetes is well on its to be being reversed totally. It can be done, diet excercise, and wathc the carbs. Its so important, its such a terribly devastating disease.

[SteveFromNY]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Nurse practitioners cannot make diagnoses and I don't think they can prescribe medicine. Correct me if I am wrong.

In NY a nurse practitioner can write a prescription. I don't yet about that in FL.

[Russ_Boston]

I would tend to agree with Gracie. Please avoid using words like 'healed'.

The two products mentioned have some proven merits as preventative measures but not cures once the disease process has begun. The first one is a fiber blend product and fiber (soluble) is good at binding to glucose etc. and should be part of anyone's daily habits. But you can get soluble fiber in many forms and you don't need supplements to obtain (Fiber one brand cereal, bread etc.)

The second product resveratrol has been shown to have some possible benefits (found in red wine, search:the French paradox etc.) but so far no positive human results have been found when resveratrol has been used outside the natural products.

I'm not discounting homeopathic solutions but please discuss them with your doctor before considering.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have to question if this man cured someone of cancer. If that were true, ethically, altruistically, and financially, this would be front page news. It is very dangerous to further misleading statements like this in my humble opinion. People are very afraid of cancer and will clutch at straws and choose treatments that are not medically proven, and avoid treatments that might save their lives. I know you are very sincere and mean well, but I have to respectfully disagree.

So much of holistic medicine and sales of alternative treatments and supplements are based on bashing of the traditional medical community...again, in my humble opinion. Like Russ Boston says, I might be wrong.

GG, You said it perfectly. Thank you.

I would like to add something.

I don't know anything about the products that are being mentioned here. But I tend not to buy into claims like that. And besides, there are miracle-claiming products that I have heard of that are the stuff of multi-level sales organizations. I don't buy into that concept either.

Boomer

[tony]

If this thread appears disjointed it is because I have put some questionable posts on hold while I await information to help me with their veracity, among other considerations. Other posts here were also put on hold because of their genuine attempt to respond to the questionable posts.

At this point, this thread is hanging by a thread. If it disappears, it is because I could not verify certain assertions.

Please bear with me.

[KayakerNC]

Originally Posted by Boomer

GG, You said it perfectly. Thank you.

I would like to add something.

I don't know anything about the products that are being mentioned here. But I tend not to buy into claims like that. And besides, there are miracle-claiming products that I have heard of that are the stuff of multi-level sales organizations. I don't buy into that concept either.

Boomer

I think BuckEye has been removed.
The postings went from what sounded like a genuine concern to something that resembled the claims in spam email. Very strange.

[BuckeyeNuts]

Originally Posted by KayakerNC

I think BuckEye has been removed.
The postings went from what sounded like a genuine concern to something that resembled spam email. Very strange.

I am concerned. Why should I be removed? We are talking about diabetes, doctors and homeopathic remedies...what is the big deal? Some in here believe that homeopathic things are not the way to go...I composed a letter about personal experience and those of others I know teaching the benefits of certain things...some of them relating to cancer. I certainly am not making any money from the sale of these items...I own a pest control business.

I thought a message board was a place to discuss things...that is simply what I am doing. I don't mind a moderator verifying things to keep his community safe either...I admire it. I am not standing in my pulpit saying to not visit a doctor or only use homeopathic means either. I am saying...here...look at this thing...do some research...it may help you as it did my friend or relative.

I am sure that a few things in my unposted letter are things many of you have never heard of...that is fine. Check them out if you are so inclined or don't...I am only trying to be of help, not start a huge ordeal.

I am just upset that my nurse practitioner said that type 2 diabetes can NEVER be cured. That is a lie. I am finding out that with exercise and diet changes...and a combination of vitamins, herbs, homeopathic remedies and even a drug...my diabetes will never get worse, will go away and I will be cured.

[BuckeyeNuts]

Originally Posted by tony

If this thread appears disjointed it is because I have put some questionable posts on hold while I await information to help me with their veracity, among other considerations. Other posts here were also put on hold because of their genuine attempt to respond to the questionable posts.

At this point, this thread is hanging by a thread. If it disappears, it is because I could not verify certain assertions.

Please bear with me.

hey Tony...I am not here to start trouble...nothing close to it. I just wanted to discuss diabetes and as threads go...they often make turn after turn. I never thought merely discussing homeopathic remedies would be such a hot topic. I appreciate you protecting your online community. If you feel my post will start a world war...please...you have my blessing not to post it. Being thought of as a spammer is almost as bad as someone calling me a liberal.

[tony]

Oh my goodness, Buckeye, I would never, ever accuse you of being a liberal.

I am just kidding with you, of course. I don't believe you are a spammer. We don't care much for them around here, you know.

Your posts bordering on something curing cancer, though, give me pause for consideration. I think I will leave them out, and if people want to contact you about your suggestions, they can.

I appreciate your effort to help people, but I don't think our forum is the proper forum for disease-curing remedies. There are plenty of forums out there for that kind of discussion. Recommending that people look into certain products seems harmless, but honestly when we read about a "cure" for cancer a little bell in my head rang.

[rshoffer]

Originally Posted by SteveFromNY

In NY a nurse practitioner can write a prescription. I don't yet about that in FL.

they can do both.

[rshoffer]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I would tend to agree with Gracie. Please avoid using words like 'healed'.

The two products mentioned have some proven merits as preventative measures but not cures once the disease process has begun. The first one is a fiber blend product and fiber (soluble) is good at binding to glucose etc. and should be part of anyone's daily habits. But you can get soluble fiber in many forms and you don't need supplements to obtain (Fiber one brand cereal, bread etc.)

The second product resveratrol has been shown to have some possible benefits (found in red wine, search:the French paradox etc.) but so far no positive human results have been found when resveratrol has been used outside the natural products.

I'm not discounting homeopathic solutions but please discuss them with your doctor before considering.

diabetes and resvertrol.... early HUMAN trials

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...82_page4.shtml