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I thought this article might be of interest to those concerned with nutrition.
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I thought this article might be of interest to those concerned with nutrition.
Possible reasons:

1) They only used them to make clothing

2) They were cheating on their diet

3) They didn't have a nutrition textbook to guide them and they mistakenly thought that sheep and goats were vegetables. They didn't have Wikipedia.

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"The bible is the word or God. How do we know this? Because the bible said so. " You got to remember the bible was written when science didn't exist and every unexplained thing was contributed to a God. Later they downsized to only one God. Have you ever seen the demonstration of a story told to a person at the head of the line then passed down the line to the 10th person? The last persons story didn't even closely resemble the original. Imagine now passing it on for 2000 years and through untold number of languages.
Even today with our high tech media they report a story that many times has so many mistakes to make the whole story inaccurate 30 minutes later.
I think I see your point but I would add something a little different. In addition to the last 2000 years, I wonder about the long period of time before the bible was written. Or maybe that was part of the point you were making.

During the many years before the bible was written, people told stories just like my grandfather did. He was a great story teller because he was born and raised in a small town in Sicily. In the late 1800s and early 1900s there was no radio, TV or newspapers in the small towns were my grandparents came from. So, for entertainment, they became great story tellers.

That's what I imagine happened long before the bible was written, although I am certainly no expert on religion. But from what little I know, I think people told stories that were passed down from generation to generation. And in most cases the stories got perfected and improved along the way. The stories were about how God created the universe, including our world. Then Adam and Eve and their children. Then the story about Noah etc.. I'm sure I left out a lot but you get my point.

Eventually, someone realized the value of all of those stories and decided to collect and document them. So now we have the bible.

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I think I see your point but I would add something a little different. In addition to the last 2000 years, I wonder about the long period of time before the bible was written. Or maybe that was part of the point you were making.

During the many years before the bible was written, people told stories just like my grandfather did. He was a great story teller because he was born and raised in a small town in Sicily. In the late 1800s and early 1900s there was no radio, TV or newspapers in the small towns were my grandparents came from. So, for entertainment, they became great story tellers.

That's what I imagine happened long before the bible was written, although I am certainly no expert on religion. But from what little I know, I think people told stories that were passed down from generation to generation. And in most cases the stories got perfected and improved along the way. The stories were about how God created the universe, including our world. Then Adam and Eve and their children. Then the story about Noah etc.. I'm sure I left out a lot but you get my point.

Eventually, someone realized the value of all of these stories and decided to collect and document them. So now we have the bible.
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Possible reasons:

1) They only used them to make clothing

2) They were cheating on their diet

3) They didn't have a nutrition textbook to guide them and they mistakenly thought that sheep and goats were vegetables. They didn't have Wikipedia.
LOL! Well done, and for you that is not rare.
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Why do we get old and die? How long would you want to live?
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I believe it has to do with a time of reckoning for our life on earth. We must account to THE ALMIGHTY for our deeds at some point or another. NOTHING-money, power, or status can change that fact. Don't worry about the cells, etc. Face REALITY & PREPARE yourself spiritually.
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"Every religion on the planet, and there are so many more than you are even aware of, has the potential of absolute thriving. But when you think that you must prove that you have the only one that is right—and you use your condemnation to push against the others—your condemnation separates you from your own Connection that, before your condemnation, you were finding in your own religion."

The original question was: Why do we get old and die?

I would submit it is because we believe that is the natural progression of life on Earth. It is a group thought form held and fed by most of us on this planet, therefore, at present, it becomes our 'truth'- our reality. I would add: In our infinite diversity, we often find very creative ways to age and suffer and expire.
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When the question of why do we get old and die is on my mind, I have a couple of cookies and a cold glass of milk and take a nap.
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When the question of why do we get old and die is on my mind, I have a couple of cookies and a cold glass of milk and take a nap.
Those better be butter-free cookies and a cold glass of almond milk (IF you know what's good for you!)

Just teasing you Gracie!
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LOL! Well done, and for you that is not rare.
Thanks! I appreciate that. Just for being so nice I have a couple of celebrity jokes you might like.

"You know you're getting old when all the names in your black book have 'M.D.' after them." - Harrison Ford

"My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 now, and we don't know where the heck she is." -Ellen DeGeneres

"According to most studies, people's number one fear is public speaking. Number two is death. This means to the average person, if you go to a funeral you're better off in the casket than doing the eulogy." -Jerry Seinfeld
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Default A great segment you will enjoy on television.

Research done on people in California who are 90plus.

Here is the link,Living to 90 and beyond - CBS News

In summary, diet and vitamins didn't help people live longer, exercise, good genes and MODERATE use of alcohol did seem to be common among long livers. AND being very thin was not good,nor was being obese, but having some extra weight was BETTER than being thin as we age. WHO KNEW?
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I love your response. I am just rereading The physics of Miracles by Dr. Richard Bartlett wwho developed Matrix Energetics. His ideas are grounded in quantum physics and scalar understanding and he talks about The morphic fields that surround every aspect of life. You are talking about the morphic field that surrounds our perception/belief about life and death and I had never thought of it that way. Thanks for putting that idea into different perspective. Now the goal could be to stay open to all possibilities for healthy longevity and easy living! I think I could buy into that! Bon Appetit to all.

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Research done on people in California who are 90plus.

Here is the link,Living to 90 and beyond - CBS News

In summary, diet and vitamins didn't help people live longer, exercise, good genes and MODERATE use of alcohol did seem to be common among long livers. AND being very thin was not good,nor was being obese, but having some extra weight was BETTER than being thin as we age. WHO KNEW?
This was a study promoted by a commercial entity. TV can be considered an extension of the food industry. So of course it would likely be biased in favor of finding other reasons for longevity other than a healthy diet.

About being very thin: Being very thin in old age can be, and often is, a sign of some disease state. For example, people who are overweight are at higher risk for cancer. If they get cancer, guess what, they lose a lot of weight and die thin. The point is that thinness in and of itself is not necessarily the cause of death. You have to look at what caused the person to be thin.

Studies have shown that a BMI of about 18 is the most ideal for health and longevity. Under 17 can be a problem though. So, don't go too low!!!
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