[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

Most vegans are annoying, boring, self centered, etc. They all seem to have an agenda and are like the very religious fanactics who think their way is the only way.

Especially irritating are the self-proclaimed Vegans who occasionally eat salmon or meat!

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Bare - I'm a little surprised you don't like fish since you grew up near the Atlantic. I like most fish: tuna, haddock, salmon, cod, swordfish, etc. I'm guessing you had a bad experience with fish at some point. Fresh fish will never smell fishy - that's a sign that you should not eat it. Interestingly, I only eat fish from the ocean - no fresh water varieties, except for aqua farmed catfish (must be the 8 years I spent in Mississippi). Wine goes so well with fish.

I too grew up with Mrs. Paul's fish sticks and other nasty foul-smelling fish. The only good "fish" was shellfish. However, when we moved to Michigan in the late '80s, I was introduced to some pretty spectacular fish--my first experience with truly fresh fish. Lake perch, walleye, and whitefish. Even fresh-water salmon, which may be a form of trout (don't quote me because I definitely do not know whereof I speak!)

I've been a fish eater ever since. Even my "brand" of vegetarianism included fish, so I guess I was never a true veggy-tarian. Protein is good for me personally; starch and whole grains do not agree with me.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by dbussone

CF - if it's a nice red (maybe a cab or Zin) it might go nicely with a snickers.

Entering that into my wine notebook...

[CFrance]

I wasn't aware that you occasionally eat salmon or meat, or that the comment was directed at you. I'm hoping to provide a venue for people to speak about why they are not vegetarians. Having been both, I'm interested in hearing the other side. As mentioned before, we have heard the veg. side.

[pooh]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

I agree, and here is the perfect comedy about the competition for piety in eating:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lraD...8&spfreload=10

[Moderator]

Please return to the OP's topic. This thread has degenerated into inflammatory comments directed at those who practice a different lifestyle. If it does not return to the original topic, it will be closed.

Moderator

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I too grew up with Mrs. Paul's fish sticks and other nasty foul-smelling fish. The only good "fish" was shellfish. However, when we moved to Michigan in the late '80s, I was introduced to some pretty spectacular fish--my first experience with truly fresh fish. Lake perch, walleye, and whitefish. Even fresh-water salmon, which may be a form of trout (don't quote me because I definitely do not know whereof I speak!)

I've been a fish eater ever since. Even my "brand" of vegetarianism included fish, so I guess I was never a true veggy-tarian. Protein is good for me personally; starch and whole grains do not agree with me.

Ah. That is the difference. We always got our fish from the fish market down at the wharf - wonderfully fresh. Mrs Paul's never entered our house.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Moderator

Please return to the OP's topic. This thread has degenerated into inflammatory comments directed at those who practice a different lifestyle. If it does not return to the original topic, it will be closed.

Moderator

I think that the best way to handle posts about a vegan life style that we don't eschew is to ignore them and not post on them. I am going to try to do just that.

Debate and kidding don't work and neither does serious informational links.

It is hard not to respond when we don't agree with something.

Let's all just try to ignore the posts about a healthy life style that we don't agree with.

I sincerely wish everyone a healthy life and a long life filled with happy events and wonderful interactions with others.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think that the best way to handle posts about a vegan life style that we don't eschew is to ignore them and not post on them. I am going to try to do just that.

Debate and kidding don't work and neither does serious informational links.

It is hard not to respond when we don't agree with something.

Let's all just try to ignore the posts about a healthy life style that we don't agree with.

I sincerely wish everyone a healthy life and a long life filled with happy events and wonderful interactions with others.

Well I disagree somewhat Gracie. You started this thread and vegan thread killer has been allowed to disrupt a conversation again. It's too bad he can't engage in a civil discussion.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Ah. That is the difference. We always got our fish from the fish market down at the wharf - wonderfully fresh. Mrs Paul's never entered our house.

Fresh fish will never smell. If you're used to the northeast , try the warm ocean tropical fish such as Mahi Mahi, Snapper, Yellow Tail, Cobia, Wahoo or the best in my opinion, Grouper. These fish are always wild caught and although they don't have the fat content of Salmon they are delicious.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Well I disagree somewhat Gracie. You started this thread and vegan thread killer has been allowed to disrupt a conversation again. It's too bad he can't engage in a civil discussion.

We must have new moderators.

Not much can be said I guess that hasn't already been said. I don't know how many threads have been posted on pretty much the same issue. Hundreds?

I am tired of it all.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Fresh fish will never smell. If you're used to the northeast , try the warm ocean tropical fish such as Mahi Mahi, Snapper, Yellow Tail, Cobia, Wahoo or the best in my opinion, Grouper. These fish are always wild caught and although they don't have the fat content of Salmon they are delicious.

You are absolutely correct. Fresh fish never smells fishy.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Fresh fish will never smell. If you're used to the northeast , try the warm ocean tropical fish such as Mahi Mahi, Snapper, Yellow Tail, Cobia, Wahoo or the best in my opinion, Grouper. These fish are always wild caught and although they don't have the fat content of Salmon they are delicious.

I agree with this, except for FL lobster being not as tasty to me as Maine lobster. But Yellowtail Snapper is my absolute favorite warm ocean fish, though I like all of those you mentioned.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by dbussone

CF - if it's a nice red (maybe a cab or Zin) it might go nicely with a snickers.

I can never find a red Zin in a restaurant.
What a nice wine that is.

Yeah -- I know; Wendy's doesn 't serve it!

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

I can never find a red Zin in a restaurant.
What a nice wine that is.

Yeah -- I know; Wendy's doesn 't serve it!

I've noticed that myself since I moved here. I love a good red Zin. They are even hard to find in the grocery stores.