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Old 01-31-2015, 09:46 AM
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(1) 24 footballs, 12 from Colts 12 from Patriots. 46% PSI were violating rules, All were Patriots, Another way, 92% of Patriots balls violated rules, 0% of Colts, (2) Ravens complained prior to Colts game that Patriots violated in their game, (3) Patriots history is cheating, (4) 5 NFL QB's said they would know if the PSI rule had been violated by the feel,(5) NFL QB on late night show (Connan) was given a ball with 13 PSI and 11 PSI and in the blind he identified each to the precise PSI just by feel, (6) an underdeflated ball provides the advantage of a shorter punt which give the opposing team less chance of "touch back" and kicking team a better chance of stoping run prior to 20 yd line, (7) when raining it gives the QB a better grip on the ball and less chance of fumble, slipping out of hand and better control as can grip lighter and firmer, etc. It was raining.
I don't think it takes Colombo to call this one! Now if some still believe the Patriots were a clean honest team I have a bridge to sell and a 52 Chevy only driven by a little old school teacher in Sand Diego.
A number of others have played football and understand the advantages and benefits of a cheating team. As I have said, over looking these violations and giving the team a pass on meeting moral and ethical values is worry some.?
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Breaking News: Pat Patriot apparently slept with every member of the New England Patriots cheerleading squad the night before the Super Bowl. They're calling it Sleepgate!!!

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I hope they win today by 50 points so that no one can say anything but the best team won.

And every golfer who complained about the football and has always had to play with a Titilest ball can never find anything but a Topflight forever.
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It is ironic that the title of this post is "New England Cheaters" and I would bet the farm 99% of the people who read or posted never raised a question in their mind as to who the post was meant for and the subject matter!! As a couple of well known famous QB's from the NFL said that not one thing happens in the game including the balls, the field condition, the player shoes, etc.etc. without
Belichick and the quarterback knowing. To believe otherwise is to indicate you have never played pro football or worked for one of the organizations. Of course Belichick and the QB knew the balls were underinflated and were violating the rules. It is also ironic that some point to how many points that NE won by and that regardless of the condition of the ball they would have won. That may or may not have been true but to use that as an logic for cheating kind of lacks morals and ethics If you win it is ok to cheat. Where does that logic come from? As I understand it, if you get caught cheating in Vegas you are banned from ever working of entering a Casino in the state. Maybe the NFL should take a page out of that book?
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It is ironic that the title of this post is "New England Cheaters" and I would bet the farm 99% of the people who read or posted never raised a question in their mind as to who the post was meant for and the subject matter!! As a couple of well known famous QB's from the NFL said that not one thing happens in the game including the balls, the field condition, the player shoes, etc.etc. without
Belichick and the quarterback knowing. To believe otherwise is to indicate you have never played pro football or worked for one of the organizations. Of course Belichick and the QB knew the balls were underinflated and were violating the rules. It is also ironic that some point to how many points that NE won by and that regardless of the condition of the ball they would have won. That may or may not have been true but to use that as an logic for cheating kind of lacks morals and ethics If you win it is ok to cheat. Where does that logic come from? As I understand it, if you get caught cheating in Vegas you are banned from ever working of entering a Casino in the state. Maybe the NFL should take a page out of that book?
Report: Only 1 ball from AFC championship was 2 PSI low, others just a tick below regulation
02.01.15 at 12:11 pm ET
By Mike Petraglia
Bill Belichick speaks Monday at the team headquarters in Chandler, Ariz. (Mike Petraglia/WEEI.com)

Bill Belichick speaks Monday at the team headquarters in Chandler, Ariz. (Mike Petraglia/WEEI.com)

GLENDALE, Ariz. As the Patriots prepare to take the field for Super Bowl XLIX, they are apparently looking more and more like winners in the Deflategate saga.

According to the NFL Networks Ian Rapoport, only one of the 12 balls used by the Patriots in the AFC championship was a full 2 PSI below regulation while the other 11 found to be below spec were only a tick below regulation.

This news contradicts a report from Chris Mortensen two days after the AFC title game that 11 of the balls were found to be as much as a full 2 PSI below regulation.

There is an ongoing investigation being conducted by Ted Wells into how the balls were handled before the AFC championship game and if there were serious protocol violations by the Patriots. Patriots owner Robert Kraft sounded a confident tone Monday night upon the teams arrival in Phoenix, expressing his support of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and demanding an apology from the league if the report clears the team.

In his state of the league address on Friday, commissioner Roger Goodell said hes not drawn any conclusions and will let the report speak for the league.

But the more that comes out, the more it appears the Patriots will be vindicated. Here is more from Rapoport on Sunday morning:
Prior to the game, a game-day worker employed by the Patriots, a man described as elderly, took two bags of 12 footballs (one bag from each team) into the restroom near the referees room in Gillette Stadium. The man was in the room for 98 seconds. When he exited the room, he took the balls to the field. There is video of the man entering and exiting the bathroom, but its unclear if there is a clear shot inside the restroom.
That the man entered the restroom prior to walking with the footballs onto the field was discovered by the Patriots, and video footage was quickly turned over to Ted Wells for his investigation.
When coach Bill Belichick and Tom Brady were told there were questions about the footballs, both were incredulous. Belichick indicated privately what he said publicly: That he had little knowledge of what went into pregame footballs. Brady told someone close to him that he works on the footballs all week, then has no idea what happens to them on gameday.
Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum.
Many of the footballs used in the AFC title game, which all have Walt Andersons initials on them, were returned to circulation among the rest of the Patriots game-day footballs. Because Anderson was the referee for two other Patriots games this season, there are more than 30 footballs with his initials in the teams possession. It appears the league has the football DQwell Jackson intercepted and took to the sidelines to ultimately hand over to his equipment staff.
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Wonder what a "tick" measurement is?
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it begs the question then, if it wasn't an advantage, why was it done? Brady was just interviewed about it on TV and boy did he look guilty. All he had to do was emphatically say he knew nothing about it but he didn't. He danced all around it. A rule is a rule and it was broken. If it didn't matter, it wouldn't be a rule. It's unfortunate, because I do believe New England is a great team and I have a lot respect for Tom Brady. But this was bush league and beneath them. I say this as someone who is apathetic about who wins.
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I worked in the computer industry all my adult life. when we were given specs there would be a high and a low with a margin of error of +/- 5%. So in my opinion a tick would be in spec and the balls would be legal, but this is my opinion. What the NFL released is fact it's fact what they found, unlike other posts filled with hearsay and innuendos. But why let the truth get in the way of a good story. If you shout false statements long enough and loud enough it may become the truth.

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Here's another story for all of you who are so sure that The Patriots cheated.

Deflategate twist: Only one of Patriots' 12 balls were under-inflated - NFL - SI.com

It's becoming more and more apparent every day that they didn't cheat.

Of course, the haters will keep going on and on about it hoping that they can get more people hating right along with them, but ti's going to backfire.

It's time to stop calling them cheaters and call them what the are. The 2015 Super Bowl Champions.
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Champs again! Enough said!
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it begs the question then, if it wasn't an advantage, why was it done? Brady was just interviewed about it on TV and boy did he look guilty. All he had to do was emphatically say he knew nothing about it but he didn't. He danced all around it. A rule is a rule and it was broken. If it didn't matter, it wouldn't be a rule. It's unfortunate, because I do believe New England is a great team and I have a lot respect for Tom Brady. But this was bush league and beneath them. I say this as someone who is apathetic about who wins.
There is nothing bush league about anything that was done. They are not guilty of anything. Ten of the balls were found to be very slightly under the legal limit of 12.5 PSI. Brady has stated that he liked his footballs to be exactly 12.5 PSI. It's entirely possible that the measurement could have been off by a tick or two. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me that if the balls were measured two or three time that they might have gotten two or three different reading all within .01 PSI. The fact is that they didn't do anything to the footballs and all of this was either the result of faulty measuring, tolerances, or atmospheric conditions. Who knows, the ball that was down by 2 PSI might have been slammed into the ground or landed upon buy a 350 pound linemen.

So let's stop all the hating and congratulate the 2015 Super Bowl Champions.
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Champs again! Enough said!

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...nOM/story.html

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Patriots rally to beat Seahawks in Super Bowl - Sports

Return to glory for the Pats

Brady rallies Patriots to 28-24 Super Bowl win over Seahawks

Two great teams, but.......

Boston is our "big city".

Everyone up here roots for the Boston Patriots plus the Boston Red Sox.
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