[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S.

Russell Henley. The kid has won a few tournaments and is now 13th in the FedEx standings after his 4th place finish at The Open. I venture to say most people have never heard of him.

Great player, who hasn't lived up to what was expected of him, based on his early success. Plenty of time left for him, he's still fairly young.

[PGApromike]

Surprising till now, nobody thought about female golfers. Lexi, Michelle Wie come to mind. I'm a huge Lexi fan, but think she might have had better numbers. My thoughts as to why would always be about her putting. On the men's side, although he has had a few decent seasons, Rickie Fowler, although one of the nicest guys on tour, has been a little bit of a surprise in the win column.

[SHIBUMI]

Tiger Woods! If Tigers father had not died he would have won more majors and more tournaments and become untouchable. His Dad would have diverted him from all of his social issues and he would continue to be the golfing assassin.........

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Up early watching the Open.

Amazing the number of top golfers that missed the cut.

Who do you think is the golfer that has not had the career that we expected?

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Up early watching the Open.

Amazing the number of top golfers that missed the cut.

Who do you think is the golfer that has not had the career that we expected?

Ty Tryon. Huge hype when he turned pro at 16 in 2001. At age 40, his career has been a flop.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Up early watching the Open.

Amazing the number of top golfers that missed the cut.

Who do you think is the golfer that has not had the career that we expected?

Hal Sutton
Rickie Fowler

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Jordan Spieth. But, golf has become more about power and less about skill. Also, in my opinion, having children does not improve a player's game.

By the way, the Brits do not like you to call it the British Open. To them, it is The Open Championship.

Too bad. There's a French Open, Scottish Open, French Open, Spanish Open, US Open and about 2 dozen more. I will not subscribe to a self-proclaimed title of "THE Open". I will continue to refer to it as the British Open. Just like I will never to refer to it as "THE Ohio State University". And don't get me started on the Washington Redskins.

[LeRoySmith]

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[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

I wasn’t specifically referring to the Open or players that have never won a major. I was asking about current players that we expected to do more than they have done.

I would think Rory would be on the list. When he came on the tour, the experts said he would win 10 majors. He only has four majors but the last was 10 years ago when he was 25.

I would also put Sergio and Adam Scott on the list. They only have 1 major each.

The best player never to have won a major is a different discussion.

Are These The Best Golfers Never to Have Won a Major.

Very interesting list in that article. A fun list might be one with those who finished second in each of Jack's and Tiger's majors. :-) What Stricker is doing as a senior is a head scratcher. Phenomenal.

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

When Rory won his 3rd or 4th Major, I read a post on social media, predicting he would surpass Tiger.

I laughed and said, "you don't understand the Irish culture".

Any "expert" who predicted Rory was destined to become an all-time great, doesn't understand the Irish.

Rory is plenty talented, but I think his best years are behind him.

I have no reason to doubt it but I find that to be an extraordinary claim about the Irish culture. Have never been there, love to hear them talk, and have heard that our last name had formerly been O'Bryant rather than Bryant. :-) Got a reference? I'm assuming that this is more recent stuff than that "cottier" thing. Admittedly, I couldn't tell you the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland. :-) Even have to stand aside when the discussion arises as to whether it's "Scotch-Irish" or "Scots-Irish". :-)

Rory's skills were and continue to be exceptional. Isn't he ranked second in the world? Wait. Looks like Xander has now nudged past him on that list. I wouldn't begin to try to explain his psychology - or anybody else's. That's some mysterious stuff - *especially* when it comes to golf. Have often wondered if some of the guys holding up surprisingly well down the stretch in majors might've been using something like hypnosis or meditation or drugs. Golf is a heinous endeavor - especially on the back nine on Sundays at majors. Guess that's why we watch. :-)

Bottom line, I'd not be surprised to see Rory grab a few more majors. Unless there's something obvious about Irish culture that I've missed. :-)

Edit: "I don't think the Irish culture is as competitive as some others." Just found that quote. Very interesting. Shall have to ponder that. . .

Edit again. Just read this: The Scots Irish – Go Foxburg! Guess I need to learn the difference between Scotts-Irish and Irish now.

Another edit. Found this quote. "The term Scot-Irish is an American made term that came about when the Irish were arriving in the U.S. during the famine. Many of the Irish who had immigrated to the U.S. in the 1700's and early 1800's had reached comfortable levels of prosperity, and were embarrassed to have any association with the poorer Irish who came during the famine." I think I might have a cousin who'll have some clue as to which group I can claim. :-)

[SHIBUMI]

Bobby Clampett was an apostle of Homer Kelly, The Golfing Machine.........way too complicated a system with the physics and geometry of the golf swing... Homer wanted it to be the Teaching Manual for the PGA but they rejected it because it was too complicated a system.............
Complicated golf creates head cases....Deshambeau will be next.........

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Considering the British Open was your reference point, my friend Bobby Clampett comes to mind.

In his words, "I'm the only 2 time winner of the Haskins Award" (Phil won it 3 times).

Bobby had the lead by 5 strokes, when the 3rd round of the 1982 British Open at Royal Troon began. He lead by 7 on the 6th Tee of the 3rd round. Bobby shot 78-77 and finished 10th. He was never the same again. He was a phenom in college and only won once on the PGA Tour ... 1982 Southern Open.

Here's a photo of Bobby, with me and Jimmy Roberts. The last time The Open Championship was held at Royal Troon, was 2016. Jimmy was about to do an interview with Bobby, about his collapse at the '82 Open Championship.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix

Ty Tryon. Huge hype when he turned pro at 16 in 2001. At age 40, his career has been a flop.

His career earnings on the PGA Tour are $146,788.

I don’t remember a huge hype for him.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Bobby Clampett was an apostle of Homer Kelly, The Golfing Machine.........way too complicated a system with the physics and geometry of the golf swing... Homer wanted it to be the Teaching Manual for the PGA but they rejected it because it was too complicated a system.............
Complicated golf creates head cases....Deshambeau will be next.........

I don't think Bobby ever actually worked with Homer Kelly ... I don't know if anyone did.

Bobby worked with Ben Doyle, who was the 1st "authorized TGM Instructor".

Tom Talbott who teaches at Sarasota Golf Academy, is one of the few Instructors with a "PhD in The Golf Machine", awarded by Ben Doyle himself.

As a "teaching manual", the little yellow book is a joke. As a "method", plenty of guys are still teaching it ... "Stack & Tilt" is based on TGM, MORAD (Mac O'Grady) is TGM based and Sean Foley is/was a TGM guy. Of course, Brian Manzella is basically the "keeper of the flame" these days.

[SHIBUMI]

Homer wrote the book, took 25 years to write, kind of a recluse, Ben Doyle was Moses and Bobby Clampet was an acolyte...........

Homer came out of seclusion to address the Georgia PGA on the golfing machine...he dropped dead at the podium, maybe TGM did too

However, there is a silver lining..........once you get past the minutia, you see a basic swing theory, which nobody teaches............almost nobody, self exception

There are 2 golf swings........left side co-ordinated or right side co-ordinated
One side always leads and the other follows - they don't work back and forth

If the left leads the right follows and if the right leads the left follows..........everyone teaches positions, but don't tell you how to co-ordinate yourself--pick one or the other-no wrong answer
and make all swings that lead including putting

Depending on handicap, I have seen 3-15 stroke improvements by learning proper
co-ordination...for that.......Homer needs many Cudo's ...problem is students will get lost in the minutia as did Bobby C and Deshambeau will be next.........sorry to say...Keep it simple stupid is still the cry................

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I don't think Bobby ever actually worked with Homer Kelly ... I don't know if anyone did.

Bobby worked with Ben Doyle, who was the 1st "authorized TGM Instructor".

Tom Talbott who teaches at Sarasota Golf Academy, is one of the few Instructors with a "PhD in The Golf Machine", awarded by Ben Doyle himself.

As a "teaching manual", the little yellow book is a joke. As a "method", plenty of guys are still teaching it ... "Stack & Tilt" is based on TGM, MORAD (Mac O'Grady) is TGM based and Sean Foley is/was a TGM guy. Of course, Brian Manzella is basically the "keeper of the flame" these days.

[Two Bills]

I was an apostle of the John Daly school of golf.
Grip it, and Rip it.
Such a simple method, and you see so much more of the golf course and surrounding areas!

[mntlblok]

Originally Posted by Rich Iwaszko

Depending on handicap, I have seen 3-15 stroke improvements by learning proper
co-ordination...for that.......Homer needs many Cudo's ...problem is students will get lost in the minutia as did Bobby C and Deshambeau will be next.........sorry to say...Keep it simple stupid is still the cry................

It'll be interesting to see with Bryson. My sense is that he might be adaptable enough to beat it. He sure ain't afraid to experiment on his own.