[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

UNPOPULAR opinion:

S Scheffler does not like playing in the Ryder Cup environment, too loud and raucous for him. Either sit him out until the singles, or leave him in until he gets used to it

& now Keegan has him playing with DeChambeau. He's actually won with DeChambeau as a partner before, but I think it's an awkward team.

I think Scotty suffers from the exact same affliction as Tiger did, in these circumstances. They're both so good at getting into that singular focus mentality, they struggle when they're "teamed" with someone else and their focus is divided.

For the last 25 or so years, the USA Ryder Cup has taken the approach of emulating the Europeans. They've tried to create a "friendly, team atmosphere", with a group of guys who spend the other 50 weeks of the year, trying to kill each other. That approach hasn't seemed to work.

Maybe it's time to take another approach. Bring a team of gunslingers, in the Ray Floyd, Lanny Wadkins mode and let them take no prisoners, friend or foe.

It's hard to turn tigers into lions. Tigers are lone hunters, lions are pack hunters. Tigers don't change their stripes.

[jbartle1]

Ugh!,,,, so sad

[retiredguy123]

I have zero interest in watching the Ryder Cup event. The United States is a country, but Europe is not. How does this make any sense? It is a fabricated event designed to make money. The only golf tournaments I enjoy watching are individual events, like The Masters, The U.S. Open, etc.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I have zero interest in watching the Ryder Cup event. The United States is a country, but Europe is not. How does this make any sense? It is a fabricated event designed to make money. The only golf tournaments I enjoy watching are individual events, like The Masters, The U.S. Open, etc.

Oh really? Fabricated 98 years ago. Created as an exhibition. It began as USA vs England. England kept getting beat ... 18 out of 22 tries, which is why it was expanded to include the entire continent.

It wasn't even on TV until 1989. No one was making money from it.

[villagernewbie]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I have zero interest in watching the Ryder Cup event. The United States is a country, but Europe is not. How does this make any sense? It is a fabricated event designed to make money. The only golf tournaments I enjoy watching are individual events, like The Masters, The U.S. Open, etc.

If you read up on the history of the Ryder Cup, you'll understand why it is all of Europe now and not still just G.B. & Ireland. While the populations are disparate, size wise Europe and the U.S. are very close.

On paper, with the individual's world rankings, we should be kicking Europe's rear, but it sure isn't turning out that way. Poor Scottie.

[collie1228]

I’m embarrassed by the US team. They simply can’t putt under pressure. European players like McElroy, Rahm and Fleetwood put them to shame. The Euros know how to play as a team, and have a great attitude. Maybe we have to pick our teams much differently. Why is Schauffle playing, when he’s only played two rounds of golf since July? That’s what the yakkers (announcers) said, and it shocked me. This team is not the best we could offer. I miss Tiger Woods.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by collie1228

I’m embarrassed by the US team.
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I hope you're equally embarrassed by the behavior of the USA/NY fans.

What a revolting display by supposed grownups.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I have zero interest in watching the Ryder Cup event. The United States is a country, but Europe is not. How does this make any sense? It is a fabricated event designed to make money. The only golf tournaments I enjoy watching are individual events, like The Masters, The U.S. Open, etc.

Which is one of the reasons the USA has trouble winning. Those are the only events they know how to play. Seems the Europeans top players understand team play plus win the events you enjoy on the PGA tour.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by collie1228

I’m embarrassed by the US team. They simply can’t putt under pressure. European players like McElroy, Rahm and Fleetwood put them to shame. The Euros know how to play as a team, and have a great attitude. Maybe we have to pick our teams much differently. Why is Schauffle playing, when he’s only played two rounds of golf since July? That’s what the yakkers (announcers) said, and it shocked me. This team is not the best we could offer. I miss Tiger Woods.

Tiger's record in the Ryder Cup was poor at best.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I hope you're equally embarrassed by the behavior of the USA/NY fans.

What a revolting display by supposed grownups.

This! Stopped watching today after the embarrassing, childish behavior of some classless Americans.

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by Aces4

This! Stopped watching today after the embarrassing, childish behavior of some classless Americans.

We stopped watching the Ryder Cup for this exact reason.

[villagernewbie]

Let's also not forget that our players, for the very first time, are being paid $500,000 to play in this Ryder Cup. And yeah, they were told that it is a "suggestion" that they donate $300K of it to their favorite charities, but they're under no obligation to do so and even if they did they'll still pocket $200K for a few days of work.

Whereas the Europeans are not being paid a single euro and in fact, some of them have said they themselves would pay out of their pockets to play in it.

This difference by itself, might explain a lot about the passionate butt-whipping we're getting.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by villagernewbie

Let's also not forget that our players, for the very first time, are being paid $500,000 to play in this Ryder Cup. And yeah, they were told that it is a "suggestion" that they donate $300K of it to their favorite charities, but they're under no obligation to do so and even if they did they'll still pocket $200K for a few days of work.

Whereas the Europeans are not being paid a single euro and in fact, some of them have said they themselves would pay out of their pockets to play in it.

This difference by itself, might explain a lot about the passionate butt-whipping we're getting.

Not to detract from your point, but only in the interest of accuracy. $300,000 is required to be donated to a Charity of the Player's choice. $200,000 is a "stipend" for the Players and they have no obligations attached to that money.

[villagernewbie]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Not to detract from your point, but only in the interest of accuracy. $300,000 is required to be donated to a Charity of the Player's choice. $200,000 is a "stipend" for the Players and they have no obligations attached to that money.

I had read that it was a strong suggestion not a "requirement," but maybe that changed because it was so controversial.

Since the PGA of America had already been donating $200K to charity in a players name, I'm wondering why they just don't say that the players are now getting the $200K (instead of $500K) and the USGA would be donating the rest, just like previously?


"Bradley's players have been asked to donate at least $300,000 of their total prize money to a charity of their choice."

Revealed: Here's how Team USA money is being distributed at 2025 Ryder Cup | Golfmagic

[villagernewbie]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Not to detract from your point, but only in the interest of accuracy. $300,000 is required to be donated to a Charity of the Player's choice. $200,000 is a "stipend" for the Players and they have no obligations attached to that money.

Let me say upfront that I don't always believe what AI comes up with, but it was interesting that when I asked if the players were mandated to donate the $300K - it says they are not. So who knows for sure, but would love to know the definitive truth.