[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

LIV paid $200,000,000 to a washed up 51 year old player. It's just about getting a big name for people to come and see. I can't blame him for taking it, but I don't think that LIV is going to get their money's worth.

They offered Tiger "high nine figures" and he refused it.

The one that I'm surprised about is Dustin Johnson who, at #15, has the highest OWGR of anyone on that tour.

The rest of the tour is players who were great at one time but are on the final leg of their careers, Korn Ferry Tour players and players that haven't been able to get onto any other tour.

One player is ranked at 600 in the OWGR and there are several that are not ranked because the rankings don't go that high. It's basically like Triple A Baseball. Another minor league tour. I don't see them getting the interest that they think they'll get. The European Tour has better quality players.

I will be interested in watching the Boston event because I've played that course several times and won an event there. I always thought it would be a great test for tour players at 8,400 yards from the tips. It's about what they should be playing these days.

As far as the other seven events, I'd much rather watch the best in the world.

Do they have any kind of television contract?

[dewilson58]

Not impressed with PGA Commissioner statements during today's tourney.

Did not answer pointed questions.

[eweissenbach]

MsElroy said upon winning the Canadian Open that his win was “one more than someone else”. I looked it up - he now has one more PGA victory than Greg Norman. I thought that was perfect! Norman Reed Mickelson, et Al are prostitutes. Hope none of them are ever heard of again. BTW, I understand taking the riches from the corrupt Saudi’s but at least admit it was a pure money grab and you don’t care about your “legacy”or principles.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by donassaid

I agree with you. Just how much money does one person need? Used to be a big Mickelson fan but fed up with his greed and his threats to hold the PGA hostage to his demands. Personally, I think the "Player Impact Fee" is a joke. All professional athletes are paid on their performance and on advertising revenue, not on their "impact" to the sport. Just another way to reward those who are already making a killing. If Phil is that unhappy, maybe he could go back to selling shoes.

Living in California a LOT.

[Boston-Sean]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Not impressed with PGA Commissioner statements during today's tourney.

Did not answer pointed questions.

He looked like he was about to break down in tears.

I'd like to hear his answer to this question:

What would you do if LIV offered you $200 mil to run their tour?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Tru dat! kaepernick is far more principled! Kaepernick walked away from millions for his principles, Mickelson walked away from his principles for millions of dirty money.

He didn’t walk away he got booted, and besides’ Nike gave him enough welfare money to get by on.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

MsElroy said upon winning the Canadian Open that his win was “one more than someone else”. I looked it up - he now has one more PGA victory than Greg Norman. I thought that was perfect! Norman Reed Mickelson, et Al are prostitutes. Hope none of them are ever heard of again. BTW, I understand taking the riches from the corrupt Saudi’s but at least admit it was a pure money grab and you don’t care about your “legacy”or principles.

Like golfer’s got principles. It’s ALL about Money. Why there leader board determines by money leader.

[Two Bills]

I really have no opinion on how anyone treats their job.
When I was working, and was offered another job at a lot more money I took the offer.
Pro golfers are working men and women doing their day jobs.
If I was a professional golfer at the end of my career, a 'never will be,' or a player whose body appears to be slowly disintegrating like DeChambeau, and I was offered shed loads of money to join a tour, where a good living could be had by just turning up to play, I would be mad to turn down the offer.
Good luck to them, hope they earn a fortune, but now I am off to watch the PGA golf, where all the good players are!
Go Rory!!

[B-flat]

Originally Posted by donassaid

i agree with you. Just how much money does one person need? Used to be a big mickelson fan but fed up with his greed and his threats to hold the pga hostage to his demands. Personally, i think the "player impact fee" is a joke. All professional athletes are paid on their performance and on advertising revenue, not on their "impact" to the sport. Just another way to reward those who are already making a killing. If phil is that unhappy, maybe he could go back to selling shoes.

ditto!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean

He looked like he was about to break down in tears.

I'd like to hear his answer to this question:

What would you do if LIV offered you $200 mil to run their tour?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

Tru dat! kaepernick is far more principled! Kaepernick walked away from millions for his principles, Mickelson walked away from his principles for millions of dirty money.

Lefty sold out for the money, agreed. But Kaepernick is a traitor to the US and should have been shot at dawn.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Not impressed with PGA Commissioner statements during today's tourney.

Did not answer pointed questions.

Dodged quite a few, but.....he did make a great point with the rhetorical question he posed to LIV participants-----

"Have you ever had to apologize for being a member of the PGA"?????

[John Mayes]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Not impressed with PGA Commissioner statements during today's tourney.

Did not answer pointed questions.

I agree. I have been impressed with the Commissioner’s decisiveness up to this point but he seemed to completely side step Jim Nantz’s questions.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Lefty sold out for the money, agreed. But Kaepernick is a traitor to the US and should have been shot at dawn.

You're wasting an awfully strong word (traitor) on a person who was simply exercising his right to peacefully protest. If you are looking for real traitors, look to 1/6.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

I really have no opinion on how anyone treats their job.
When I was working, and was offered another job at a lot more money I took the offer.
Pro golfers are working men and women doing their day jobs.
If I was a professional golfer at the end of my career, a 'never will be,' or a player whose body appears to be slowly disintegrating like DeChambeau, and I was offered shed loads of money to join a tour, where a good living could be had by just turning up to play, I would be mad to turn down the offer.
Good luck to them, hope they earn a fortune, but now I am off to watch the PGA golf, where all the good players are!
Go Rory!!

There's a bit more to it than a regular working person taking another job. These people have a legacy to think about. They're not going to be allowed to play in The Players or other PGA Tour events that are historically significant. Their OWGR is going to suffer because they are not going to get anywhere near the points for winning, what can only be classified as a minor league event compared to a PGA Tour event. Some have already lost sponsorship money and I'm sure that more will as time goes on.

Many of these players want to be looked at in terms of their place in history. That place is going to be diminished by playing 8 events against a weak field.

If I'm not mistaken, these players are not going to be allowed to play on The PGA Tour Champions when they hit 50.

While I certainly understand people like Phil, Sergio, Charl Schwartzel, Lee Westwood and others who are in the twilight of their career, going this way, I'm surprised at Dustin Johnson, DeChambeau and a few others who are still competitive on the PGA Tour.

Most great athletes want to compete against the best in the world. That can only be done on the PGA Tour. It's like these guys have gone from playing Major League Baseball to AAA. Of course they have the chance to make more money and some have guaranteed money before they tee it up. So I guess we're seeing what's important to different people.

Tiger was offered a boatload of money and indicated that his place in history and how he is viewed is more important to him.

There is also a good chance that this tour will fold after a few years. (Remember the USFL and the World Hockey League?) What do these guys do then?