[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by Tweety Bird

I don't tip if I pick something up. I did all the work!!!!!!!! And, the reason I pick it up is so I don't HAVE to tip. Enough is enough.

Agree. Restaurants have trained US to pay their employees for them and many of us blindly accept that. Do you tip the cashier at Publix? She did as much or more than ringing up your pizza that you picked up at a restaurant.
Tipping is hardly logical in this country. You tip a taxi driver but not an airline pilot. Who do you think is more responsible for your life?

[nonseniorresident]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Agree. Restaurants have trained US to pay their employees for them and many of us blindly accept that. Do you tip the cashier at Publix? She did as much or more than ringing up your pizza that you picked up at a restaurant.
Tipping is hardly logical in this country. You tip a taxi driver but not an airline pilot. Who do you think is more responsible for your life?

You are missing the point. Please read my post above. If you want to order takeout food and not tip...order from a non-tipping/non-full-service establishment like publish or Subway etc! Publix cashiers gets paid WAY more than Servers (more than double) and Pilots get 10x what Taxi drivers make! Tipped employees get paid HALF of minimum wage to account for tips. THAT IS THEIR PAY. You stiff a server for takeout then they are taxed and still tip-out other employs based on a set percentage of sales regardless if its takeout or dine-in so they are PAYING to work.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by nonseniorresident

You are missing the point. Please read my post above. If you want to order takeout food and not tip...order from a non-tipping/non-full-service establishment like publish or Subway etc! Publix cashiers gets paid WAY more than Servers (more than double) and Pilots get 10x what Taxi drivers make! Tipped employees get paid HALF of minimum wage to account for tips. THAT IS THEIR PAY. You stiff a server for takeout then they are taxed and still tip-out other employs based on a set percentage of sales regardless if its takeout or dine-in so they are PAYING to work.

Tipping is and was originally set up for exceptional service. When I walk into Vinnie's Pizza to pick up my pizza that I ordered on the phone and the person behind the counter hands it to me and rings up the register he or she doesn't deserve a 15 to 20% tip, regardless of what he or she is paid. A tip for pushing a few keys on the register? Where's the exceptional service?
The example of the pilot above is getting paid 10x the taxi driver but carries 10x the people, 100x times the distance and has 1000x times the training. Are we suppose to make all employees paid the same by tipping or not?

[nonseniorresident]

Since you obviously didn't respond to my first post when replying to my 2nd...here's my point once again:

"Absolutely 10%. More if they are fast and efficient and ESPECIALLY if they are in the middle of a busy dinner rush. If you get food at a The Server is doing almost the same amount of work except less less visits and they get to use that table as a piece of real estate for another guest. That is why it is not 20% but if you tip nothing expect to stand around waiting for your food and the order to likely be wrong next time. If you tip nothing, they are paying to take the time to take your order, put it together, and cash you out. They still have to tip out (bar/busser/host) and pay taxes on those sales event if it is takeout.

If it isn't a full-service establishment, it is still a courtesy to tip, but not expected unless it's a big or complicated order. But if you get a takeout lunch from Panera or Crispers, don't bother tipping. "

So yeah, a pizza place is fine not to tip a carry out unless it was a big and/or complicated order.

[BBQMan]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

Tipping is and was originally set up for exceptional service. When I walk into Vinnie's Pizza to pick up my pizza that I ordered on the phone and the person behind the counter hands it to me and rings up the register he or she doesn't deserve a 15 to 20% tip, regardless of what he or she is paid. A tip for pushing a few keys on the register? Where's the exceptional service?
The example of the pilot above is getting paid 10x the taxi driver but carries 10x the people, 100x times the distance and has 1000x times the training. Are we suppose to make all employees paid the same by tipping or not?

You are right on part of this. Tipping WAS for exceptional service. Tipping today IS the way servers in restaurants make their living. Aside from truly high end restaurants, and we have none of them in or near The Villages, it is not a great living. Your servers work double and even triple shifts to make ends meet. Here in TV these are kids going through college, single moms, seniors who need a little extra income, etc. These are people working for a living and not going on welfare. They have earned your help, not your scorn.

Let me say again, if you cannot afford or do not want to tip do not go to or order out from restaurants. Buy your food from the grocery store and cook it yourself, go to McDonalds or BK or order a pizza (remember to tip the driver). Do not short the hardworking people who serve you. This continues to perpetuate the image we have in the community outside TV as being both greedy and stingy.

[redwitch]

For those that do not tip when ordering takeout at a sit-down restaurant, consider this: Many restaurants actually have the takeout be for an entire shift that is rotated between servers. This means that for that day, the server has less tables (takeout is considered the equivalent of one or two tables).

So, they have the "joy" of:

(1) Taking the time to bag your order, get your drinks, utensils, condiments, etc.;

(2) Making sure your order is bagged so nothing spills and is according to company specifications;

(3) Having seated customers be upset that their food is delayed because the server is trying to make sure your food stays hot and is ready for pick up;

(4) Losing at least one table for that shift; and

(5) Doing all of this so that YOU don't have to tip because you ordered takeout.

[HMLRHT1]

No one forced them to work that job did they? If they don't like what happens then they can work somewhere else.

[redwitch]

Let's see, you're young. You may have some education, even a college degree but no jobs. Where do you propose they go to work? Wal-Mart can only hire so many people, even given that most are part-timers so that they get no benefits. The practices mentioned above are common at all major chains and many smaller restaurants.

HLMRHT, I really hope you never have a child or grandchild who is put into a predicament of being forced to work a job like this. When I was a server in college, I loved it. I didn't have to help pay my co-workers' wages. We did our set ups while on the clock. Takeouts were done by whatever server had time to bag the food up. It's a different job today and servers are really taken advantage of today. It's a hard job under the best of conditions, but the fact that these kids are taken advantage of like this is just wrong. The least we can do is have a little sympathy and help them out if we can and they've earned that tip (and, no, I won't tip for bad service -- never have, never will).

[chuckinca]

We don't order take out.

.

[zcaveman]

My takeout is pizza and Chinese. These are basically takeout restaurants. Why should I have to tip them?

If I get the pizza delivered I tip $3.00.

[Living The Life Too]

Tipping for take out is a new thing! Never considered back in the day! Suddenly someone decided to put a jar out for tips and it took off. I know many places won't allow it.

A tip at a buffet is less then a full service restaurant,

We tip for service. If I drive out to get it, I don't tip. When I was younger, I did both. Carry out was not full service. The food has to be prepared regardless. If you want to make a tip, you work at a place that gives full service and THEN, you give GOOD service for the tip. You don't get a tip just because you waited on me!

You don't get a tip because you "smiled" I do that all day long and don't expect a tip.

[De Lis]

Originally Posted by jblum315

I tip a delivery person, but not if I pick the order up.

Seriously, WHY?

[nonseniorresident]

Originally Posted by BBQMan

You are right on part of this. Tipping WAS for exceptional service. Tipping today IS the way servers in restaurants make their living. Aside from truly high end restaurants, and we have none of them in or near The Villages, it is not a great living. Your servers work double and even triple shifts to make ends meet. Here in TV these are kids going through college, single moms, seniors who need a little extra income, etc. These are people working for a living and not going on welfare. They have earned your help, not your scorn.

Let me say again, if you cannot afford or do not want to tip do not go to or order out from restaurants. Buy your food from the grocery store and cook it yourself, go to McDonalds or BK or order a pizza (remember to tip the driver). Do not short the hardworking people who serve you. This continues to perpetuate the image we have in the community outside TV as being both greedy and stingy.

[Barefoot]

There is a jar for tips at the self-serve yoghurt shop. I guess the tips are for operating the cash register?

The people who bag your groceries at Publix do more work, and even walk you to your car and put your groceries inside. Do they get tipped?

[nonseniorresident]

Don't they put the toppings on it too, cut the fruit, etc? A tip jar is no big deal but I think it's tacky for a place like that to have a slot for a tip on the credit card slip. That's like a guilt-trip...feel pressured to tip yet rude to cross it out.