[CFrance]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

No, I'm advocating for the victims that are people, like the ones that owned the peaceful dogs under the table, and whose legs could well have been bitten and torn open with a dog fight under the table.

I'm also advocating for the people at the tables beside them who could have been caught in a dog fight.

Human legs under restaurant tables aren't prone to attracting an unruly or unpredictable leashed dog on the sidewalk. But mixing unfamiliar dogs in heavy foot traffic and loud live music blaring--as the squares have--is a recipe for trouble.

That is still nothing to do with the dogs behaving well at a resto and being attacked by a poorly trained, vicious dog who shouldn't have been in the area in the first place. You could be walking on some street when a drunk or demented driver jumps a curb and runs you down. Should you never go out on the sidewalk because some people shouldn't be allowed to drive a car?

Okay, I'm done here. Everyone else can have the last word. I need to learn not to let my doggy button be pushed so easily.

[Patty55]

When the dogs are legally allowed, well behaved, leashed and quietly enjoying their night out with their owner THAT TOO SHOULD BE RESPECTED.

I'm not so crazy about the food at Red Sauce, they have that upstate NY version of Italian, but I will be eating there to be supportive.

[Josie70]

Leave your dogs home...or get a baby sitter when you want to go out so your dog won't be lonely...The Villages is getting out of hand I won't go to Red Sauce anymore that's for sure. I watch people every morning walking their dogs going on peoples property have some respect....I am not a dog hater its their owners that have to behave...and learn to respect other peoples property. Walk them on your own grass.Johnny Rockets lets dogs on the outside also and I don't go there any more.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by Josie70

Leave your dogs home...or get a baby sitter when you want to go out so your dog won't be lonely...The Villages is getting out of hand I won't go to Red Sauce anymore that's for sure. I watch people every morning walking their dogs going on peoples property have some respect....I am not a dog hater its their owners that have to behave...and learn to respect other peoples property. Walk them on your own grass.Johnny Rockets lets dogs on the outside also and I don't go there any more.

Well, you have crossed RedSauce, Johnny Rockets, and Cody's off your list because you have heard they allow dogs outside. Have you checked out any other Villages restaurants personally to see their policies? You might be surprised at how many really will allow dogs outside.

Personally, I would rather have a quiet dog under a nearby table than whining children or children running amok in the restaurant.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by Josie70

Leave your dogs home...or get a baby sitter when you want to go out so your dog won't be lonely...The Villages is getting out of hand I won't go to Red Sauce anymore that's for sure. I watch people every morning walking their dogs going on peoples property have some respect....I am not a dog hater its their owners that have to behave...and learn to respect other peoples property. Walk them on your own grass.Johnny Rockets lets dogs on the outside also and I don't go there any more.

Not to worry about your lawn, I care too much about them to let them walk on untreated sewage runoff.

Any other restaurants you won't be visiting, I'm updating my list.

[KeepingItReal]

[quote=buggyone;761526]Well, you have crossed RedSauce, Johnny Rockets, and Cody's off your list because you have heard they allow dogs outside. Have you checked out any other Villages restaurants personally to see their policies? You might be surprised at how many really will allow dogs outside.

Originally Posted by Josie70

Leave your dogs home...or get a baby sitter when you want to go out so your dog won't be lonely...The Villages is getting out of hand I won't go to Red Sauce anymore that's for sure. I watch people every morning walking their dogs going on peoples property have some respect....I am not a dog hater its their owners that have to behave...and learn to respect other peoples property. Walk them on your own grass.Johnny Rockets lets dogs on the outside also and I don't go there any more.

If you have concerns you have the right and a duty to report illegal behavior and Cody's is the only restaurant that has the required permit to allow animals in the outside seating area. Any other restaurant allowing dogs on their outside area is breaking Florida State law which requires a local permit and compliance with quite a few health and sanitation requirements..

It's not the business manager or owner's choice to just decide to allow dogs without compliance.

Cannot be any clearer than this below...from another post..

Permits for dogs on outdoor patios. Presently, Cody’s Road House in Lake Sumter Landings in The Villages is the only restaurant in Sumter County permitted under Section 13-735 of the Land Development Code. If you have visited Cody’s Road House and believe they are not complying with the requirements of their permit, please also let me know and I will assign an inspector to review their compliance.

If you have any additional questions, please contact me.
Karl E. Holley, AICP
Director of Development Services
Sumter County Board of Commissioners
7375 Powell Road
Wildwood, Florida 34785
(352) 689-4463
Sumter County, FL - Official Website

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by jrandall

Hats off to Red Sauce. We moved here from Miami. Many of the restaurants in South Beach permit dogs to accompany their owner where the dog can stay on on the ground next to the table in the outside eating areas. We were able to bring our little Carly tonight to the Red Sauce patio location. We had a good dinner and it was nice to bring our dog with us. She had been crated all day while we were in a Orlando. Being able to take her with us to our dinner location prevented me from feeling guilty for leaving her in the crate for a couple more hours. Thank you Red Sauce!

Welcome to The Villages, , bet you thought you were moving to a pet friendly community.

[BettyCrocked]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Not to worry about your lawn, I care too much about them to let them walk on untreated sewage runoff.

Any other restaurants you won't be visiting, I'm updating my list.

LMAO! You're killing me Patty! I will probably make an effort to take my dogs everywhere now. Keeps the dog haters away!

[Patty55]

Until somebody that matters tells me not to be, we'll be there.

You know the dogs can come in handy saving chairs.

[TheVillageChicken]

I have applied for a government grant which will be used to prove my theory that dogs are actually alien beings from other solar systems and that their "owners" are brainwashed abductees utilized purely as life support systems in a bizarre host/parasite relationship. That leg humping thing is their way of marking potential "hosts" for their Friends Their dangly bits and behinds secrete a chemical that makes humans attribute childlike human qualities to them. The critters transfer this chemical to humans by licking themselves then licking the humans either on the lips, nose, or eyes. Forewarned is forearmed.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Skybo

Wow...TV is supposedly a pet friendly community. There are plenty of outdoor facilities and areas where dogs aren't allowed, but then there are those places where they are allowed. And if a dog is allowed to sit in the outdoor patio area at Red Sauce, or in the square, or at the Farmer's Market, then their owners have every right to take them there without being ridiculed. And folks who don't like it certainly have the right to go elsewhere. Every dog is an individual, with it's own personality. No one but the the owner of an individual dog knows what that dog enjoys doing. Some dogs may not enjoy crowds of strangers, but others do enjoy it. And as long as it's a "pet friendly" area, and the dog is behaving, then it's no one else's business.

Pet friendly community vis a vis retirement community for people ?

No dogs allowed? I may be wrong but I haven't read one sign here yet

If a dog is allowed then an owner has every right vis a vis owners responsibilities?

Beside which a poster already stated that the only public establishment with a permit is Cody's

A dog is an "individual"??? vis a vis humans being described as individuals.
As individuals used here explains why some dog owners walk their dogs in baby carriages

As long as a dog is behaving vis a vis the unpredictability of when and to whom a dog will strike/bite.

The Villages is first and foremost for people

Cest la vie

[jblum315]

I saw dogs in practicslly every restaurant in Paris, inside as well as outside.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by jblum315

I saw dogs in practicslly every restaurant in Paris, inside as well as outside.

That's not surprising.

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken

I have applied for a government grant which will be used to prove my theory that dogs are actually alien beings from other solar systems and that their "owners" are brainwashed abductees utilized purely as life support systems in a bizarre host/parasite relationship. That leg humping thing is their way of marking potential "hosts" for their Friends Their dangly bits and behinds secrete a chemical that makes humans attribute childlike human qualities to them. The critters transfer this chemical to humans by licking themselves then licking the humans either on the lips, nose, or eyes. Forewarned is forearmed.

Whoa, I sometimes have these kinds of thoughts about TV, only it's not the aliens doing it, it's THEM. That we are living the plot of a bad horror movie where we have been assembled by THEM to suck the power from our brains to power up something like a submarine (maybe a big boat).

Oh, BTW, good luck with that grant, the fed is closed, hell they don't even have towel service at the gym.

[BobAllen1290]

I see no reason why people should not have pets. We have one, but I do not understand why people feel the need to cart the animal to a restaurant, store or service place. If I am in a restaurant and there are dogs there, we leave. There is a time and place for everything and taking your pet to the store or a restaurant is not appropriate unless of course they are a bona-fide service animal.