Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

You ever hear of Private Property? The developers OWN the land. They don't need or welcome or even deserve to be harangued by miserable Villagers. Get over it.

Holy cow, with so much crud going on in the world aren't there more important things to worry about? The developers don't tell you how to invest your money. What gives anyone the right to tell them how to invest theirs?

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

Maybe we should wait to see the plans.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by John41

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes.

What has changed for the homeowners?

They paid a premium for a lot on the golf course and the golf course still exists.

[CanTho]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

My comment is pretty simple. I look at the Brownwood Lofts and what the developer created on an open lot that was a borderline eyesore.

The Lofts are fantastic and the Recreation Center is well thought out and very inviting.

Everything that the Morse Family has done is really well planned and the end product is really nice.

I am certain that whatever the end product that is built will be fantastic !

Just let it go. They have made a well thought out business decision as usual.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

You ever hear of Private Property? The developers OWN the land. They don't need or welcome or even deserve to be harangued by miserable Villagers. Get over it.

Holy cow, with so much crud going on in the world aren't there more important things to worry about? The developers don't tell you how to invest your money. What gives anyone the right to tell them how to invest theirs?

Have you ever heard of Good Will. That is an intangible asset that is on the balance sheet of companies that listen to and answer to the needs of their life blood, their customers. Gary Morse got that big time. The current generation of the family were very fortunate to inherit that Good Will along with a thriving enterprise and a billion dollars each. They are now burning up that Good Will at an astronomical pace. Pretty soon they won't be able to simply build stuff and sell it to the next sucker based on the Good Will generated by their deceased father. Their inherited tank of Good Will will run empty, and they will realize that Good Will has to be earned by listening to their customers and acting accordingly, and very handsome profits will follow if they finally manage to get it.

[tophcfa]

Originally Posted by CanTho

My comment is pretty simple. I look at the Brownwood Lofts and what the developer created on an open lot that was a borderline eyesore.

The Lofts are fantastic and the Recreation Center is well thought out and very inviting.

Everything that the Morse Family has done is really well planned and the end product is really nice.

I am certain that whatever the end product that is built will be fantastic !

Just let it go. They have made a well thought out business decision as usual.

A couple of thoughts on the above post. I agree, the apartment complex in Brownwood is appealing looking and well thought out. But there is a HUGE difference between that place and what is planed for HH. The Brownwood apartments were built in an area that is not surrounded by single family residential homes, it does not suffer from already major traffic congestion, it is not in an area that already has severely overused amenities, it is not on a Championship Golf course, and it was not jammed down the throats of single family homeowner who bought homes thinking an apartment complex would never be part of the deal.

I don't think anyone is saying that apartment complexs are a bad idea, but they need to go in the proper area and not be put in after the fact negatively effecting homeowners that never had any reasonable expectation that they would suddenly appear in their neighborhood. I don't think anyone has a problem with the appearance of the Waterfront Hotel in Lake Sumter Landing, but I think it would ruffle a lot of feathers if they tore down the Club House at either Belle Glade or Evans Prairie and put it there? There is a proper place and time for every kind of development, and lots of Villagers don't think it is either the time or place for what is planned for HH.

And you say that the end product that will be built will be fantastic? Do you mean just like the wonderful building that had to be torn down to make room for the apartments because it was no longer functional, that was fantastic? Or are you referring to the former Katie Belles, or the El Santiago building that they jammed down the throats of the AAC and subsequently needed to be torn down? Really!

One last note on apartments, after Covid they might not be such a good idea. Has anyone considered that the major outbreaks of the pandemic in the area are centered around high density living arrangements such as nursing homes, assisted living facilities, and yes apartments. Personally, I am glad to have a single family home to self quarantine during such times and am sure glad I don't live in a high density apartment complex.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

You ever hear of Private Property? The developers OWN the land. They don't need or welcome or even deserve to be harangued by miserable Villagers. Get over it.

Holy cow, with so much crud going on in the world aren't there more important things to worry about? The developers don't tell you how to invest your money. What gives anyone the right to tell them how to invest theirs?

I guess you not going to be affected by the towering apartments, over crowding, and Morse Blvd congestion, and suspected 285 residents, probably will be more. Yes it private property but he don’t own district amenities which he getting addition free passes to district that He don’t own. Cramping more in area already over crowded. I‘M in same boat it don’t affect me why should I care?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by VApeople

What has changed for the homeowners?

They paid a premium for a lot on the golf course and the golf course still exists.

I wouldn’t bet on it? Maybe part of that premium rate included country club?

[Joe Sacco]

Correct!

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

You ever hear of Private Property? The developers OWN the land. They don't need or welcome or even deserve to be harangued by miserable Villagers. Get over it.

Holy cow, with so much crud going on in the world aren't there more important things to worry about? The developers don't tell you how to invest your money. What gives anyone the right to tell them how to invest theirs?

I’m sure you would be the first in line with your hand out if it were your property that just took a significant hit in value because of something the developer did.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Have you ever heard of Good Will. That is an intangible asset that is on the balance sheet of companies that listen to and answer to the needs of their life blood, their customers. Gary Morse got that big time. The current generation of the family were very fortunate to inherit that Good Will along with a thriving enterprise and a billion dollars each. They are now burning up that Good Will at an astronomical pace. Pretty soon they won't be able to simply build stuff and sell it to the next sucker based on the Good Will generated by their deceased father. Their inherited tank of Good Will will run empty, and they will realize that Good Will has to be earned by listening to their customers and acting accordingly, and very handsome profits will follow if they finally manage to get it.

Funny. I recall that when Gary Morse was alive people complained about how he ruined all of the good will created by his father, Harold Schwartz.

I'm wondering if when the kids of the people currently running the show take over, people will be complaining about how their parents did it so much better.

[PJackpot]

Where do you come up with these absurd ideas? The project is already committed. Lot owners get nothing. It is their property, they own it. They can do what they want with it.

[jbrown132]

Originally Posted by VApeople

What has changed for the homeowners?

They paid a premium for a lot on the golf course and the golf course still exists.

When those people bought those properties and paid a premium they had a reasonable expectation that the club house, restaurant and pool were part of the package. No different than joining a private country club. When the developer sold those homes to those people part of the pitch was that everything is already here. Club house, restaurant, pool, courses etc. Now it looks like the old bait and switch has taken place. Why not replace what they took down with a new clubhouse, restaurant and pool. Yes, that’s right no money to be made.

[crash]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

The country club is in Marion county so the Sumter County commissioners have nothing to do with it.

They are not developing the golf course just the property the restaurant and club house set on. People will not be losing their golf course view may just see apartment buildings depending where on the course they sit.