[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by 17362

I saw this original thread and thought....
What? Again? Geez!
Get over it people.
The developer doesn’t have to listen to any of us. He/ she/ they/ it OWNS it.

Perhaps the real reason why there are so many threads about this is that emotions have taken over the brain - and that they can do what they want, but The Village house owner(s) are a deed restricted community?!? Is that the real reason?
Never the less, nothing can be said to change it.
It’s history!
Get over it.
This is what I call, “ too bad, so sad, Learn from it “ instance.

And district don’t have to pass out Access amenities like candy

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna

I hadn’t thought about the lot premium issue. But the extra 300 guest-amenity cards was approved by the AAC last week. The only impediment to the developer proposal would be their inability to get zoning changes to permit the high-rise building. If the developer controls the zoning in The Villages, they might be able to get the change. If they have to apply to the “new” Sumter County board, there’s a chance re-zoning may not be approved.

Three incumbent board members lost in the primary, but I think all five have to run in the General Election in November. We’d all be well-served to get the names of the candidates challenging the incumbents in preparation for our voting in November.

No amount of bushes will be able to shield the view from surrounding homes of the proposed 286-unit apartment building. The proposed building would have to be 10-12 stories high to fit on the parcel of land that was Hacienda Hills CC. That doesn’t consider where parking for 300 or so cars plus at least 200 golf carts would go. Given the sink hole problem in The Villages, I can’t imagine a large underground garage would even be possible.

They will probably push it through before the leave office or have already greased it in.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The CDD Supervisors have zero say or control of anything to do with the amenities. You are misinformed.

why did developers Have to apply for 285 amenities ID cards to district theY sold years ago?

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob

There are NO plans for a restaurant and it is not part of the agreement.

Where can we view the plans that you have seen which led you to that conclusion?

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by jbrown132

When those people bought those properties and paid a premium they had a reasonable expectation that the club house, restaurant and pool were part of the package. No different than joining a private country club.

ALL of those things will be available to ALL Villages residents, not just those in the apartments.

Learn the facts before spewing venom.

From the notoriously negative Villages dash News dot com - "In addition to the restaurant, the Developer has promised a resort-style pool, a walking path and sports courts. They would be open to all Villagers, according to the proposal."

[algi45]

You sound like one of the developer's minions.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob

There are NO plans for a restaurant and it is not part of the agreement.

We have not seen the final plans. However, if you have read the articles in The Daily Sun, or attended the AAC meeting last week a restaurant, club house and pool were all discussed as being included. All the amenities will be available to all residents.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Rhen why did developers Have to apply for 285 amenities ID cards to district the sold years ago?

Go to this thread. There is a very good and detailed explanation by Goldwingnut.

Construction Update 8/17 and Amenity Fee (part 2)

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Cranford61

I often wondered how to Gary Morse get his surname when his father was Harold Schwartz?

Morse was born in Chicago, Illinois, the son of Mary Louise and Harold Schwartz, who later moved to Arizona.[1] After the couple divorced, Mary Louise married Clifford Morse (Morse would later take his stepfather's surname) and lived in Central Lake, Michigan.[2]
Wiki.

[donassaid]

Everyone has property rights, not just the Developer. Your property rights end where mine begin. For example, you can't have dogs barking at all hours, or pet snakes or raise pigs. The Villages charged a premium for GOLF COURSE lots not for high rise apartment views. Just because they have already gotten their money from existing homeowners doesn't give them the right to come in now and ruin their property values.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Everyone has property rights, not just the Developer. Your property rights end where mine begin. For example, you can't have dogs barking at all hours, or pet snakes or raise pigs. The Villages charged a premium for GOLF COURSE lots not for high rise apartment views. Just because they have already gotten their money from existing homeowners doesn't give them the right to come in now and ruin their property values.

What golf course is going away in this deal?

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Dharrisoncmo@gmail.com

Wow. Are you serious? What if they were to build a prison? They own it - they can do it? What if they put in a paper factory (they smell)? They own it - they can do what they want to it?

The legal fact is - was a "reliance to their own detriment." Which means - they purchased with a reasonable assumption of what they were investing in (country club, etc.) and - they were lied to.

The other simple fact is this. In a few short months - with Katie Belle's and this - the Morse family has diminished trust by thousands of Villages. The business model was driven by very happy people literally "begging" friends to move here to. That is their "golden goose" or in business called their "strategic competitive advantage."

Knowing the attitude is "I own it - I can do whatever I want" is an "in your face" attitude. Personally - I really like living her overall - but I understand the people who are very upset. I lost trust in the Morse family - and will be less likely to encourage friends to move here. Why? Because who knows what the Developer will do - because it is all about money - not the purpose and trust and strategic business model that came before him. Overtime, The Villages won't be so special - just bigger than other retirement communities; that would be a shame.

Brilliant post. I agree completely. Very good details of the past history, the deterioration, and the future predictions. Seems like a good conclusion. I can only speak to my 15 years experience here. I can only speak in generalities. I enjoy being here and the MANY clubs and activities, which are made STRONG by unpaid volunteers many times. That is part of the "good will" that factors into the positive life style in TV land. The good will factor seened stronger, to me, from 2005 to about 2012, when perhaps expansion became more important to the Developers than cultivating good will and good word of mouth advertisement. I must confess to sometimes getting the feeling of living in a hidden "soft" Dictatorship. Peeople buying into TV land usually have a "golly, gee whiz attitude" for about 5 years, as I did. Slowly you see and realize that it is not perfect. You notice small problems like traffic back-ups in January, where a simple turning lane could solve the problem. You notice excessive landscaping at round abouts that cause visual hazards and etc. Later, you might start feeling like the individual is powerless. That is my feeling - like a quasi-Dictatorship. I hope I do not sound like a Qanon conspiracy monger?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by PJackpot

Where do you come up with these absurd ideas? The project is already committed. Lot owners get nothing. It is their property, they own it. They can do what they want with it.

So, I can do what I want with my property right? I own it. Not how it works is it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

ALL of those things will be available to ALL Villages residents, not just those in the apartments.

Learn the facts before spewing venom.

From the notoriously negative Villages dash News dot com - "In addition to the restaurant, the Developer has promised a resort-style pool, a walking path and sports courts. They would be open to all Villagers, according to the proposal."

The facts? They tore down the country club.

[bpascani]

well said