[Normal]

The battle of Wildwood is heating up. A manufacturer of pipe with a planned 150,000 foot extension vs Twisted Oaks. Who will win? 1200 more homes or the pipe manufacturer? Or are the real losers Wildwood itself who has never figured out 462 and places traffic cops at the corners during peak movement? I’m sure it will come down to revenue for the city and the field dependent view of the town….lol.

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[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

The battle of Wildwood is heating up. A manufacturer of pipe with a planned 150,000 foot extension vs Twisted Oaks. Who will win? 1200 more homes or the pipe manufacturer? Or are the real losers Wildwood itself who has never figured out 462 and places traffic cops at the corners during peak movement? I’m sure it will come down to revenue for the city and the field dependent view of the town….lol.

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I don't see the problem. Primus was granted approval for their 150,000 sq ft expansion back in 2018. Nothing that I found said that approval had been rescinded.

The residential area was originally approved back in 2008. Site plans were approved last July and again this month. Construction could begin soon.

There is some concern by Primus over whether the buffering is sufficient between the two properties but it seems like that should be on the residential developer and not the business that already exists in the area.

Other than potential complaints by the residents about the noise, where is the conflict? How does either one lose?

You did notice that this development is to the west of 301 and nowhere near the congested part of 462 with the traffic cops, right?

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I don't see the problem. Primus was granted approval for their 150,000 sq ft expansion back in 2018. Nothing that I found said that approval had been rescinded.

The residential area was originally approved back in 2008. Site plans were approved last July and again this month. Construction could begin soon.

There is some concern by Primus over whether the buffering is sufficient between the two properties but it seems like that should be on the residential developer and not the business that already exists in the area.

Other than potential complaints by the residents about the noise, where is the conflict? How does either one lose?

You did notice that this development is to the west of 301 and nowhere near the congested part of 462 with the traffic cops, right?

Well, we all know how residents would never complain about reductions in property value due to outside expansion of businesses? Or how views people thought they were entitled to, suddenly vanish. By the way west of 301 is church row and 462. I’m sure more traffic won’t hurt a thing lol.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Normal

Well, we all know how residents would never complain about reductions in property value due to outside expansion of businesses? Or how views people thought they were entitled to, suddenly vanish. By the way west of 301 is church row and 462. I’m sure more traffic won’t hurt a thing lol.

As we all know very well, what people *thought* they were entitled to and what they actually are entitled to can be two different things. Complain away but the expansion, if it isn't already completed, was approved five years ago.

You need to work on your geography. If you are referring to the church row just north of 466A where the traffic cops are stationed, that is EAST of 301 and is on the way from the Villages to Darrel's Diner. Primus and the open land for the new development is WEST of 301, across the street from Darrel's.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Normal

Well, we all know how residents would never complain about reductions in property value due to outside expansion of businesses? Or how views people thought they were entitled to, suddenly vanish. By the way west of 301 is church row and 462. I’m sure more traffic won’t hurt a thing lol.

Are you using the free or paid …..Villages GPS?

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

As we all know very well, what people *thought* they were entitled to and what they actually are entitled to can be two different things. Complain away but the expansion, if it isn't already completed, was approved five years ago.

You need to work on your geography. If you are referring to the church row just north of 466A where the traffic cops are stationed, that is EAST of 301 and is on the way from the Villages to Darrel's Diner. Primus and the open land for the new development is WEST of 301, across the street from Darrel's.

There will still be a traffic problem there when the development shares the existing stoplight at Darrel's especially when the train parks it's self blocking traffic on 462 several times per day when traffic actually stops on 301 trying to get onto 462 and this will make it a lot worse. They are building a ton of homes on 462 as well as Home Depot, it's going to be a bad area traffic wise along with 466A.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

There will still be a traffic problem there when the development shares the existing stoplight at Darrel's especially when the train parks it's self blocking traffic on 462 several times per day when traffic actually stops on 301 trying to get onto 462 and this will make it a lot worse. They are building a ton of homes on 462 as well as Home Depot, it's going to be a bad area traffic wise along with 466A.

PLEASE look at a map! 462 near the proposed development does not share a stoplight with Darrel's. 462 near the proposed development does not come near the train tracks. Primus and the proposed development referred to in this thread is not near the new Home Depot or the "ton of homes" currently being built on 462 or 466A.

[RUCdaze]

We are overdeveloped in the surrounding communities already, we don't need more. The homes that are going up are of a cheaper, unattractive, and "project" style that adds absolutely no aesthetics to our area. These places attract low-income individuals that in turn bring an undesirable element and crime to an otherwise pristine area. These developers should be taken out and shot.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by RUCdaze

We are overdeveloped in the surrounding communities already, we don't need more. The homes that are going up are of a cheaper, unattractive, and "project" style that adds absolutely no aesthetics to our area. These places attract low-income individuals that in turn bring an undesirable element and crime to an otherwise pristine area. These developers should be taken out and shot.

No new houses for worker bees, no bees……who will serve you your beer?

[Bilyclub]

It's not on the TV border.

[LuvtheVillages]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

PLEASE look at a map! 462 near the proposed development does not share a stoplight with Darrel's. 462 near the proposed development does not come near the train tracks. Primus and the proposed development referred to in this thread is not near the new Home Depot or the "ton of homes" currently being built on 462 or 466A.

Yes Bill, please look at the map. 462 starts at 466A and heads north. It then makes a 90 degree turn to the west and meets 301. At that corner it crosses the railroad tracks and there is a Darrel's Diner. (We are not talking about the one in Pinellas.) The new development in in front of you, and Primus is in front and to the south.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by LuvtheVillages

Yes Bill, please look at the map. 462 starts at 466A and heads north. It then makes a 90 degree turn to the west and meets 301. At that corner it crosses the railroad tracks and there is a Darrel's Diner. (We are not talking about the one in Pinellas.) The new development in in front of you, and Primus is in front and to the south.

As you sit at the light on 462, with Darrel's on your left, looking across 301, the *development* is ahead of you but NOT the continuation of 462. The part of 462 that the development will be on meets 301 farther north. You can see this in the post #10.

Who knows if the development will get approval to add a road that connects to 301 at that traffic light. They might, but it doesn't exist today.

Without approval to tie into that light, traffic from the development will not be at the light, 462 near the proposed development does not come near the train tracks, and Primus and the proposed development referred to in this thread is not near the new Home Depot or the "ton of homes" currently being built on 462 or 466A.