[graciegirl]

But the Villages agents are NOT pushy. I HATE PUSHY. The houses here are easy sells if they are priced right. This is one of the most desirable places to own in the country.

You a realtor, litespeed?

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

You a realtor, litespeed?

About as far as you can get....not a chance.

But, we are both a bit under 55 - and the TV agents were snotty to us. Independents not in the least (money is all green no matter the age of the hand exchanging it). Plus, we did not want to be in the new areas (466A and south). We fall into that 20% genre.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I can't believe that this keeps coming up and that so many people here are so misinformed about it.

The law says that in order to be an over 55 community at least 80% of THE HOMES must be OCCUPIED by at least ONE PERSON over the age of 55.

As long as that is the case, the other 20% OF THE UNITS may be occupied by anyone over the age of nineteen.

It has nothing to do with new home sales pre owned sales or anything else. One person in 80% of the units must be over 55.


As far as under 19 goes, the Villages rule is that no one under the age of nineteen is allowed to LIVE HERE full time. I don't believe that that precludes people under the age of 19 from owning as long as they do not occupy the units that they own.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

Huh? Who told you that? Not in TV....this "General Rule" simply does not exist. Look at the prior post about "New" sales...that may be the case. I know for a fact that it does not pertain to the secondary market.

That is not the case. RJM has it right. See my last post.

80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55 and no one under the age of 19 can live here permanently.

[cquick]

Originally Posted by RickeyD

Why would you want to live with bunches of old people ?

because we're FUN!

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55 and no one under the age of 19 can live here permanently.

From what I understand, and have seen - they only real control they have is on NEW homes and the secondary market can do as they wish (for sales). On the secondary market I have yet to hear about any controls or quotas.

First time someone tries to really press the age 19 thing I can see the ACLU get involved and sue for discrimination. More over, if pushed I bet TV simply settles (not that I agree or disagree, just how society is today).

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

From what I understand, and have seen - they only real control they have is on NEW homes and the secondary market can do as they wish (for sales). On the secondary market I have yet to hear about any controls or quotas.

First time someone tries to really press the age 19 thing I can see the ACLU get involved and sue for discrimination. More over, if pushed I bet TV simply settles (not that I agree or disagree, just how society is today).

This is where you are wrong, Mary Jane. There is nothing illegal about it. You are new and have a lot to learn. AND that the Morse's have damn good lawyers.

Here ya go..........

"While in the United States discrimination in housing is generally prohibited, the Fair Housing Act of 1968[8] and the Housing for Older Persons Act of 1995 (109 STAT. 787)[9] allow communities to restrict residency to older individuals. Individuals may buy into these properties regardless of age; however, the owner may be prohibited from occupying the property according to the association declarations and bylaws."

[billethkid]

There are no age restrictions on resale homes.

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This is where you are wrong, Mary Jane. There is nothing illegal about it. You are new and have a lot to learn. AND that the Morse's have damn good lawyers.

Here ya go..........

Like I said..."IF" the ACLU got involved things would change...all we need is for some disabled minority sexually confused kid to try and buy a home....

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

From what I understand, and have seen - they only real control they have is on NEW homes and the secondary market can do as they wish (for sales). On the secondary market I have yet to hear about any controls or quotas.

First time someone tries to really press the age 19 thing I can see the ACLU get involved and sue for discrimination. More over, if pushed I bet TV simply settles (not that I agree or disagree, just how society is today).

The law is what I said it is. The Villages has a count who lives here by the amenities bills and passes.

Under 19 is allowable under the law by over 55 communities.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by billethkid

There are no age restrictions on resale homes.

There are no restrictions on the sales of any homes. The restrictions are on who occupies the homes. Eighty percent of the units must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55. It has nothing to do with resales or new homes.

I wish that people who don't know what they are talking about would stop disseminating wrong information.

Here is the law. It has nothing to do with sales and everything to do with occupancy.

The Housing for Older Persons Act of 1995 (HOPA) (Pub.L. 104–76, 109 Stat. 787, enacted December 28, 1995) amends Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968 (Fair Housing Act). The consolidated Act is administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). The law was signed by President of the United States Bill Clinton on December 28, 1995.

Section 2, defining "housing for older persons", amends Section 807(b)(2)(C) of the Fair Housing Act,[5] as that being
intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older, and--
(i) at least 80 percent of the occupied units are occupied by at least one person who is 55 years of age or older
(ii) the housing facility or community publishes and adheres to policies and procedures that demonstrate the intent required under this subparagraph; and
(iii) the housing facility or community complies with rules issued by the Secretary for verification of occupancy, which shall--
(I) provide for verification by reliable surveys and affidavits; and
(II) include examples of the types of policies and procedures relevant to a determination of compliance with the requirement of clause (ii). Such surveys and affidavits shall be admissible in administrative and judicial proceedings for the purposes of such verification.

Here is the entire act if you're interested:
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-1...-104publ76.htm

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by LitespeedRider

From what I understand, and have seen - they only real control they have is on NEW homes and the secondary market can do as they wish (for sales). On the secondary market I have yet to hear about any controls or quotas.

First time someone tries to really press the age 19 thing I can see the ACLU get involved and sue for discrimination. More over, if pushed I bet TV simply settles (not that I agree or disagree, just how society is today).

They can sue all they want, but they will lose. Age discrimination in over 55 communities is perfect legal under HOPA.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by billethkid

There are no age restrictions on resale homes.

RESALE homes have the same constraints that new homes have here.

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

The law is what I said it is. The Villages has a count who lives here by the amenities bills and passes.

Under 19 is allowable under the law by over 55 communities.

Um...but the amenities bills go only to the owner...who then can rent (and they then give up their resident ID for the given property and the "residents" are assigned ID's - or not). So, who is keeping track of what? Not trying to argue. But, it seems that this "policy" is about as well controlled as the "gated" community policy or the "residents only" gates (that have a red button).

[billethkid]

What organization is it that keeps a tally on the percentages of who and what age live in what homes?