[BETHPAGE BLACK]

Jeannie beanie...you are so right..we wait to retire to "live our life" not go to bed at 8pm...We finally get to retire we want to be HAPPY..and people who are active and social are Happy people...Not a bunch of old scrooge geezers out to make everyones life as miserable as theirs...
I am still working and my home down there is waiting and calling for me..KathieI and all you guys are always there for everyone. I want to join you guys and gals and have fun with you but it sure doesnt look like we are going to be allowed to do this..I may as well stay in NY and work go to bed early,,get up go to work and do it over and over..no fun..
This is absurd and I wish I were there with you to get to that meeting...Come on gang...we need to be heard.
If I were there, I would round up a few of us and pickett the Sales Center and tell prospective buyers what may lie ahead for them..Sure they will show them the SQUARE..but wont tell them about the Curfew>>>> Dont think the Sales Office would be appreciative of a bunch of picketts....

[NJblue]

My guess is that if you demonstrated in front of the sales office and told prospective buyers that there was a curfew that you would be sued for spreading false and derogatory information. (I don't believe that the right to free speech covers that.) There is no curfew! The entertainment options are the same as they were whenever you decided to move to TV. You need to stop believing and spreading this false hysteria.

In fact, since this false notion of a curfew seems to live on in this thread, I wonder if the admins of TOTV need to be concerned about legal action from TV for allowing it to continue.

[Martha Kaye]

Originally Posted by NJblue

My guess is that if you demonstrated in front of the sales office and told prospective buyers that there was a curfew that you would be sued for spreading false and derogatory information. (I don't believe that the right to free speech covers that.) There is no curfew! The entertainment options are the same as they were whenever you decided to move to TV. You need to stop believing and spreading this false hysteria.

True....been here a long time and there is no curfew. Hang out at different places and go to bed at midnight.

[Talk Host]

Originally Posted by bluedog103

How about finding out who the complainers are and pay them a visit.

[Bogie Shooter]

the 100+ postings accomplished???

[BobKat1]

Does anyone know if this is a big issue throughout TV in general or mainly in the TOTV community?

[SUNNYMARYANN]

what surprises me is that Linda said the Villages offices computers cannot access this forum and she has no computer at home. Also stated that nobody has called or come in with any questions or complaints about the 'curfew' and if someone imposes a curfew of 8PM there will be a riot! Her words, not mine. How can an organization not take care to be aware of what is happening within their organization? Seems to me that monitoring the forums would give them a lot of information that could be to their benefit. Do I really want to deal with such "duhhhhhs"?

[SUNNYMARYANN]

Actually I was told that the powers that be prefer to ignore rumors and just let them die on the vine.

[BETHPAGE BLACK]

Originally Posted by NJblue

My guess is that if you demonstrated in front of the sales office and told prospective buyers that there was a curfew that you would be sued for spreading false and derogatory information. (I don't believe that the right to free speech covers that.) There is no curfew! The entertainment options are the same as they were whenever you decided to move to TV. You need to stop believing and spreading this false hysteria.

In fact, since this false notion of a curfew seems to live on in this thread, I wonder if the admins of TOTV need to be concerned about legal action from TV for allowing it to continue.

We are confusing the work CURFEW. No one is telling us we cant go outdoors after 8pm but we are being told that the entertainment we so love and the ability to socialize and have fun with our peers is severely limitted by not allowing music and dancing after 8pm.. What do we do go home and watch reruns on tv The rec centers close early too...This tells me..grow old,watch tv and croak while watching ......this is not the way I want to live the remaining years of my life

[rshoffer]

I've always believed life is a complete circle and we end up re-experiencing everything in our later years just like we did in our younger years. This thread sure confirms that.

[ConeyIsBabe]

Originally Posted by NJblue

Interesting rationale. However, this doesn't address the issue that none of the other CCs see the need to play late night entertainment and in fact many have no entertainment at all and they seem to do OK. If they would concentrate on quality food and good service they would do fine. Havana should take a lesson from them on this score. It is the closest to our neighborhood but no one wants to go there because of their poor service and mediocre food.

If they want to try some new concepts to bring people in, why not try indoor music - that's what a very popular restaurant where we used to live did. They had music that started around 8:30 or 9 as the dining wound down. That way people could eat and then stay in their seats to enjoy the music. The obvious benefit of this is that it is not dependant on the weather - too hot? too cold? too rainy? doesn't matter. The other benefit is that it doesn't annoy the neighbors.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't agree with this logical solution. When I lived in s/FL I was a member of the Coral Gables Country Club and enjoyed many indoor parties with great food, great music, friends, fun, etc. 'till the wee hours of morn; and no neighbors were disturbed by loud music.

[bestmickey]

Not yet a resident, but I sure hoped to join KathieI and "the gang" to have fun dancing and enjoying music. I'm a Baby Boomer and I expect The Villages to change with the times, to more appropriately accommodate the younger folks (and those who are young at heart) moving in.

Of course, we can't and don't want to ignore the more mature long-term residents who like to go to bed by 9:00 PM. However, for The Villages to continue to be successful, they must change with the clientele. Along with having music/restaurant/bar venues open later and later, I think we should also begin seeing some change in music offered. I suggest the music choices vary more than is currently the case. I'd like to see music from the mid to late 60's ... going into the 70's. The Boomers' Woodstock era needs to be availalbe...at least one night a week (for the time being). Of course keep the current 50's offerings. Heck, I'd even like to see music from the 30's and 40's IMHO. Nothing better than Duke Elllington and Billie Holliday. But, I digress.

My vote goes to more offerings of later venues ... both indoors and outdoors. Yes, NJBlue I recognize you and a few others don't like the idea of outdoor music. And, we know that one very vocal person calls the cops on the Havana Club. I wouldn't be surprised if that call is made by a competing venue. Even if it is from one person in the neighborhood, one person living in the neighborhood complaining should not a rule make. After all, that's one thing the double paned windows are for ... they actually do keep out the noise. And, for security reasons alone, everyone should have their doors and windows closed and locked by the time they go to bed at 9:00 PM.

PARTY ON!

[bluedog103]

Originally Posted by Talk Host

Very funny Talk Host. I was thinking more along the line of visiting with a cake and discussing our differences with coffee and a snack. Like I said, use your imagination. Hmmmmm

[NJblue]

My vote goes to more offerings of later venues ... both indoors and outdoors. Yes, NJBlue I recognize you and a few others don't like the idea of outdoor music.

I wonder how many times I have to repeat this. I have nothing against late night music - either indoors or out. I just don't like to see the rights trampled of the homeowners who bought in what they thought was going to be a residential neighborhood with peaceful evenings. TV was very well planned out for late night entertainment - just stick with the plan and keep the outdoor music where it was intended - in the town squares. If people want music in the CCs late at night, keep it indoors.

If people want to have outdoor music late at night with the two remaining CCs to be built south of 466A, have the people buying houses nearby sign a statement acknowledging that that is part of the new plan and then let the party begin.

As a fellow baby-boomer, I'm embarrassed that my generation seems to be living up to its negative stereotype: it's all about "me". Why not drive the few minutes to a town square and party all you want? Why is it necessary to disturb others to get some immediate gratification? Is a few extra minutes going to destroy the fun of an evening?

[F16 1UB]

Hmmm !?!?!?!?!?! "And MY point is" Don't you think your point has been made or are you trying to convince yourself. Yep - sounds like a political arena.