[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Neils

an exception is on Florida highways. Florida statute 316.212 section three says a golf cart can cross a state highway so long as it divides a subdivision, mobile home park or golf course. So for example, if you have to cross a state highway to get from one side of your neighborhood to another you are allowed to do so.

HUH? That is EXACTLY what I put in the post you just quoted so not sure of your point however you stated:

Info -FL traffic law allows golf carts to cross county roads at intersections controlled by traffic signals.
No special deal just for Stonecrest

It IS a special deal for STONCREST since "provided that the governmental entity having original jurisdiction over such street or highway shall review and approve the location of the crossing and require implementation of any traffic controls needed for safety purposes." \

See what happens if a cop sees you crossing 466A, 466 or 44 in a golf cart on Morse or BV.

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by Tom M

Agree with the first part, but you lost me with the snowbird addition... Can you explain how snowbirds pay $50 for 6 months of use? I thought the owner of the home pays every month for 12 months/yr no matter who or how long someone is there. Are you suggesting if they're renting that they're not effectively paying enough to cover the fees?

You must have missed the part that the owner pays amenities fees 12 months per year, even if they only use the house 3 months. That does not change even in death, until the house is sold. The renters $50 is just more icing on the cake. I am surprised as a resident you didn’t know how amenities fee works

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by KRM0614

True nothing is free here. In one form or another we pay for everything whether we use it ie not.Morse family needs as much money as possible

I really get upset when I read things like "Morse family needs as much money as possible".

It is not a SHAME to have a profit when you run a business.

When you successfully run a business you also are providing employment for OTHER people.

When you successfully run a business it generally grows and gets bigger.

I believe that there is a limit to what money can buy. Many people very much like the Morse family have started with not much and carefully grew their business until they became hugely successful with more money than they need. That does not make them wrong, bad, or evil.

There are people who are underhanded and greedy. They are everywhere, and probably due in part to the fact that parents are NO longer on hand every minute during a child's first five years when rules and moral standards are imparted.

Or maybe it is due to other factors. We all have our views on why some people have ethics and some do not.

I have never met anyone who ever said to their beloved children, "Do well in school, so that you can grow up and not make much money, and continue to live off of us and if that doesn't work, someone will give you public assistance". NO ONE says that or thinks that.

So when I read people say that the Morse family is greedy, I almost always think they are jealous, don't live here, haven't learned to save and do without and delay gratification and work hard.

Help me down.

[Villagesgal]

Villagers pay amenity fees, part of which go to pay to maintain the multimodal cart paths which are located on private property owned by the Villages. They are not open for public use. You want golf cart access, buy a home in the Villages. We are not allowed to use your privately owned pools and rec centers, you are not allowed to use ours. Simple as that and it makes total sense that way.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by jwilkin558@aol.com

i live in spruce creek south and i am able to drive my car everywhere in the villages but can’t drive my golf cart there. Why? Because i would need a key card. Can someone please explain the rationale about this?

now that we know spruce creek south has invaded the villages i think it's time we rolled out the barbwire, mobilize our fleet of classic cars, surround them with our softball army,arm all our archers and dam up the water supply to scs until they unconditionaly surrender.

[texaslexuss]

Oh my..... can someone build a bridge from Del Webb so I can get to the Villages with my golf cart? Maybe include the Flea Market too!

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by texaslexuss

oh my..... Can someone build a bridge from del webb so i can get to the villages with my golf cart? Maybe include the flea market too!

thank you for the distinct honor of being the first to publicly thank you. 6 years goes by real quick

[bobnyce]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

If you are paying for a rental, who in their right mind would accept a guest pass?
Nonsence.

Many renters are not aware of the difference between guest pass and white resident pass which means the owner gave up rights to renter. Snowbirds that own pay amenity fees year round not just when they are here.

[Carla B]

Originally Posted by asianthree

You must have missed the part that the owner pays amenities fees 12 months per year, even if they only use the house 3 months. That does not change even in death, until the house is sold. The renters $50 is just more icing on the cake. I am surprised as a resident you didn’t know how amenities fee works

I'm pretty sure he knows how the amenity fee works. The $50 comment pertained to an earlier post, in which a landlord would obtain guest passes for his renters, instead of temporarily surrendering his resident pass. But he would still collect $50 and pocket it. (There is no fee to obtain a guest pass.)

But, as Two Bills' Post 69 points out, why would a renter ever agree to that, unless they were very short term and didn't mind not having access to all amenities. Also, I don't think guest passes are issued for a stay more than 30 days but, never having tried that, I don't know for sure.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Fused Glass

Yes

Actually, although Villagers can drive through the historic section gate and go to Aldi, Lowes, Wal Mart and other stores over there, I don't believe that they can drive into Spruce Creek.

And if the OP can drive anywhere in the Villages he can certainly get to Spanish Springs Town Square. He just can't get there through that gate.

I find it interesting that so many people from Spruce Creek are interested in driving their golf carts to The Villages but I've never heard of a Villages resident that wanted to drive his golf cart into Spruce Creek.

[dadoiron]

Originally Posted by jwilkin558@aol.com

I live in Spruce Creek South and I am able to drive my car everywhere in the Villages but can’t drive my golf cart there. Why? Because I would need a key card. Can someone please explain the rationale about this?

Because where you bought is not part of this community.

If you want to circumvent villages golf cart paths get a street legal cart and you should be able to get there. Otherwise tough luck or move.

[TomPerrett]

Originally Posted by jwilkin558@aol.com

I live in Spruce Creek South and I am able to drive my car everywhere in the Villages but can’t drive my golf cart there. Why? Because I would need a key card. Can someone please explain the rationale about this?

There was some dispute coming from some business owner or land owner or developer about golf cart passage over to that Lowe’s area. It was not Lowe’s with the problem. It was some type medical housing business.

Any way at first all passage from the Villages to that area was blocked. However Villages residents complained that several doctor offices and medical facilities.

So at that point a gate was installed to allow Village residents access to that property while still restricting cart flow from other areas.

This was simply a business dispute by someone not wanting carts crossing their property.

It was not the Villages being restrictive of Spruce Creek residents.

[Nick Kelly]

The rationale , as I understand it, is the Village residents pay a cart fee to use and maintain the extensive cart paths. Since I use to live in Spruce Creek South I can understand your frustration as you can drive your car there but not your golf cart. Your money is good there to support the stores, restaurants and entertainment centers ( tickets are sold to the public) but yet you can't ride your golf cart over there. Years ago I suggested, on this site, that the Villages sell gate passes to our neighbors who support the villages. That money would be used to maintain the cart paths. The card users would have prove residency in a surrounding community like Spruce Creek South or Stonecrest. Both communities have great residents ! I don't know if the southern villages (South of 44) this plan would be good.

[Nick Kelly]

The rationale , as I understand it, is the Village residents pay a cart fee to use and maintain the extensive cart paths. Since I use to live in Spruce Creek South I can understand your frustration as you can drive your car there but not your golf cart. Your money is good there to support the stores, restaurants and entertainment centers ( tickets are sold to the public) but yet you can't ride your golf cart over there. Years ago I suggested, on this site, that the Villages sell gate passes to our neighbors who support the villages. That money would be used to maintain the cart paths. The card users would have prove residency in a surrounding community like Spruce Creek South or Stonecrest. Both communities have great residents ! I don't know if the southern villages (South of 44) this plan would be good.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Nick Kelly

The rationale , as I understand it, is the Village residents pay a cart fee to use and maintain the extensive cart paths. Since I use to live in Spruce Creek South I can understand your frustration as you can drive your car there but not your golf cart. Your money is good there to support the stores, restaurants and entertainment centers ( tickets are sold to the public) but yet you can't ride your golf cart over there. Years ago I suggested, on this site, that the Villages sell gate passes to our neighbors who support the villages. That money would be used to maintain the cart paths. The card users would have prove residency in a surrounding community like Spruce Creek South or Stonecrest. Both communities have great residents ! I don't know if the southern villages (South of 44) this plan would be good.

Have you not read all these comments? We PAY for all the golf cart paths, pools, rec centers, etc. We do not want people from any other communities to come in to use these roadways and facilities. We don't care if you do or don't want to shop or eat in The Villages but you may if you wish. You must walk or drive a car to do that. The Villages is not your neighborhood playground.