[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Some premiers off Pinellas were $150k for golf views. Don't forget the $500k lots over looking the swamp down past Belle Glade.

I guess I'm just naive! My mother (RIP) always said that I should have been a doctor instead of a computer geek.

[asianthree]

We have looked at multiple golf sites, those with a cart path with x amount of feet, were a no. We did find a house we loved on the course with a pool but due to the tree planting you had to walk out to a corner of the yard to see the course. For $850,000 the dense planting was a no for us. And yes a view site starts at $100,000 and up

[starflyte1]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The Hac-y folks probably paid $5k extra, they got their investment back.

what do you mean?

[starflyte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

No golf courses have ended up as "apartment housing" in The Villages. A defunct Country Club Restaurant is becoming apartment housing....limited to the same older people and property restrictions we all have. There will be no kids. There will be older people. Seems to me to be a tempest in a teapot.

I think the OP is talking about a Championship Course, I am guessing Evans Prarie. I imagine it is disappointing to have a golf cart path where there was not one before, but trees shouldn't be a downer.

I live on a Championship Course with the cart path less than 10 ft from my screened pool cage. Very, very few golfers use the path.

[jacksonbrown]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Seems to me to be a tempest in a teapot.

Unless it is YOUR teapot.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I’ve been on 5 golf courses , 2 in the villages , I didn’t have to be told that things can change in course . I don’t think the changes are going to totally obstruct your view and I would like to believe the changes are needed or they wouldn’t do them .The people making fun of the money people pay for lots make me laugh , is it because you couldn’t afford one or that you feel we should all live in a one size fits all like a trailer court

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

Unless it is YOUR teapot.

I just photographed The Villages Map where the Hacienda C.C. was and then Binged the properties adjacent to it. The one closest to H.C.C.C. sold for the mid 200's in 1998. The latest Zillow Zestimate is in the mid 400's. I will watch, and you can too if the properties closest to where Hacienda C.C. was change in value when the apartments are built.

I see no reason why the property value would change downward.

The apartments will be built and we will see who is right on this in about six months.

[Dana1963]

Never trust a real estate agent unless it’s written into contract. I doubt a lawyer can help you except taking your money.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Do people REALLY pay "over $100,000 EXTRA" to watch people driving around on golf carts hitting balls and to see water? $100,000 !!! WOWZA !! Maybe I can sell viewing of my 10' deep back yard with my neighbors palm tree for $50 an hour from my bedroom widow with all the spring water you can drink and I'll even put out a 4' pool with goldfish to look at! I guess I'm just jealous but I would definitely be upset if it had been taken away .... despite the fact I'd be SOL if it was taken away.

I just realized, I can see a golf course from my roof. Guess I got a good deal.

Yes, they do. My lot premium on a champ course in 2014 was 176,000. Today I played golf with a gentleman who is building a house in Bradford (south of 44) on an exec course with a water view and his premium is 190,000. Still cheaper than beachfront in Palm Beach

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Do people REALLY pay "over $100,000 EXTRA" to watch people driving around on golf carts hitting balls and to see water? $100,000 !!! WOWZA !! Maybe I can sell viewing of my 10' deep back yard with my neighbors palm tree for $50 an hour from my bedroom widow with all the spring water you can drink and I'll even put out a 4' pool with goldfish to look at! I guess I'm just jealous but I would definitely be upset if it had been taken away .... despite the fact I'd be SOL if it was taken away.

I just realized, I can see a golf course from my roof. Guess I got a good deal.

Here in Bonita lot will cost well over $ 100,000 for lot with view of golf course and lake.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Bill. Maybe in U.K. there is redress for something like this but I think this gentleman would be wasting his money on a lawyer. ( This is the first time I have ever disagreed with you Bill)

The Developer's have used very skilled lawyers to cover things like this.... and they aren't novices. It isn't that I don't feel sorry for him and probably the folks who are changing the direction of the water are wishing they didn't have to build a new cart path. I guess I pretty much think that the builders do very little wrong, but sometimes water has to be redirected. I feel sorry for this fellow. Wonder what the water issue is on Evans Prairie where they are planning to change the path of the golf cart path????

Anybody play a hole that is soggy???? Come to think of it, I think Henry said he did. I will ask him when he returns. He knows every Championship Course here like the back of his hand.

I have no idea what the law in UK is regarding this matter, anymore than how the law works in the USA.
But.
If I had paid, as stated by the OP. $100,000 more for a facility, and a few years after purchase someone was going to take that facility away, I would be outside the door of someone who specialises in such matters, first thing the following morning.
I am sure the developers lawyers crossed all the T's and dotted the I's, but if selling something and then taking it away is fine, "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!"
The guy did not buy under a flightpath, and then start complaining about the noise!

[GreySkies]

Originally Posted by jacksonbrown

The property owners north of 466 have formed a "protest" group. Click here for more.

Based on the number of property owners north of 466 and the total views this web site has so far.... and that there is currently only ONE "story" to share.... the support is extremely limited, probably a small handful of unhappy residents who don't like the current changes proposed by the developer.

Good luck getting the developers attention, it's like a fruit fly buzzing around Godzilla's head.

[dewilson58]

There is a good chance SOME DAY, most golf courses could be replaced with houses or condo's or apartments. We all know the interest in golf is decreasing. I don't know if it will be 10 years, 20 years or 50 years, but IF the negative golf trend is real and it continues, why would anyone continue to maintain courses with insufficient course revenue. No body.

There are no guarantees.

Premiums were paid based on the then current state.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

There is a good chance SOME DAY, most golf courses could be replaced with houses or condo's or apartments. We all know the interest in golf is decreasing. I don't know if it will be 10 years, 20 years or 50 years, but IF the negative golf trend is real and it continues, why would anyone continue to maintain courses with insufficient course revenue. No body.

There are no guarantees.

Premiums were paid based on the then current state.

Excellent analysis and explanation. Here's an industry periodical confirming exactly what you wrote.

Gone with the wind: 10 of our favorite golf courses to close in 2019 | Golf Advisor


"Whatever you believe is causing all these closures - that golf is too expensive, too hard or takes too much time - is somewhat irrelevant. Courses will continue to close, especially ones that are mismanaged, overpriced, too far removed from a population center or too valuable to developers. It's the circle of life (in golf)."

[asianthree]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I just photographed The Villages Map where the Hacienda C.C. was and then Binged the properties adjacent to it. The one closest to H.C.C.C. sold for the mid 200's in 1998. The latest Zillow Zestimate is in the mid 400's. I will watch, and you can too if the properties closest to where Hacienda C.C. was change in value when the apartments are built.

I see no reason why the property value would change downward.

The apartments will be built and we will see who is right on this in about six months.

Today put that house on any other championship, and it’s $600,000 to $900,000. But the Inside of the older houses have that architecture detail.