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Old 09-08-2020, 03:05 PM
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The property owners north of 466 have formed a "protest" group. Click here for more.
I just joined. This group has the power of the press to get the developers attention. It did for our group of villa owners. There is strength in numbers.
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Old 09-08-2020, 03:15 PM
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When I bought my new golf course home from The Villages Real Estate in 2014, the agent said I was paying over a $100,000 premium for my view of the golf course, a large lake, and the fact there was no golf cart path behind my house. Because of golf course drainage issues, the golf course is now proposing to plant evergreen trees that will partially block my view and add a golf cart path behind my house. When I expressed my concerns to a Ricky, who was behind my house this morning and who I was told was in charge of all the golf courses, I got an arrogant attitude of they can do whatever they want.

So my questions are:
1. Can the golf course do whatever they want, even if it means decreasing the value of adjacent properties? (I'm trying to avoid hiring a lawyer if there really is no recourse.)
2. What is Ricky's last name, title, and email contact info. Same information for his boss.
3. I've tried contacting the CDD and Sumter Co. and can not get a straight answer regarding their need to get a permit. Do they need a permit?
4. Has anyone had success dealing with The Developer to get them to be a good neighbor or taking legal action against them?

Any truly helpful information or comments are appreciated.
Contact the POA. They answer questions in their monthly newsletter. Beyond that I would contact a lawyer who works in that area of the law. Often they give a free or low cost consultation to see if you have a case. For $100,00 it’s worth a try. Disregard those on this forum who discourage you from pursuing your options to getting a resolution of your issue. Then join the POA if you aren’t a member and also this new group V2P that has a post in this thread.

To those who say the developers lawyers are so smart you can’t win, well they lost a $45 million judgement.

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Old 09-08-2020, 04:07 PM
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Today you can't get near an executive course for $100,000. The OP may not be happy with the changes but the lot is still going to have a premium well over $100,000. That being said, I lived on a golf course for 13 years and sill never do it again. We are now on a peaceful pond with great views that is very private and quiet, much better than a golf course view. I know it's only one man's opinion but it's something to think about.
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Yes, they do. My lot premium on a champ course in 2014 was 176,000. Today I played golf with a gentleman who is building a house in Bradford (south of 44) on an exec course with a water view and his premium is 190,000. Still cheaper than beachfront in Palm Beach
I guess that is funny. It shows that some of us got it and some of us don't. If I had $176G's or $190G's to burn, personally, I think I'd use it a little differently than to look at a golf course, but that's just me since I don't have it. All the power to you!
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I guess that is funny. It shows that some of us got it and some of us don't. If I had $176G's or $190G's to burn, personally, I think I'd use it a little differently than to look at a golf course, but that's just me since I don't have it. All the power to you!
But if it went up for sale today price on that house will be more than $250,000 to $400,000 from last sale. We have looked at 37 homes, and that seems to be the profit from last sale. So far no other house has that much increase with no improvement.
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I just joined. This group has the power of the press to get the developers attention. It did for our group of villa owners. There is strength in numbers.
Boy, I hate to rain on your parade. But, press? Certainly not The Daily Sun. Probably not the Orlando Sentinel, which seems to like to do hatchet jobs on TV, which everyone knows and just ignores.

What press?
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Bill. Maybe in U.K. there is redress for something like this but I think this gentleman would be wasting his money on a lawyer. ( This is the first time I have ever disagreed with you Bill)

The Developer's have used very skilled lawyers to cover things like this.... and they aren't novices. It isn't that I don't feel sorry for him and probably the folks who are changing the direction of the water are wishing they didn't have to build a new cart path. I guess I pretty much think that the builders do very little wrong, but sometimes water has to be redirected. I feel sorry for this fellow. Wonder what the water issue is on Evans Prairie where they are planning to change the path of the golf cart path????

Anybody play a hole that is soggy???? Come to think of it, I think Henry said he did. I will ask him when he returns. He knows every Championship Course here like the back of his hand.
Evans Prairie consistently has drainage issues. It was closed all last week due to the heavy rains we had. Of all the champ courses in TV EP seems to be the one that is most adversely affected by rain.
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Old 09-08-2020, 08:26 PM
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When I bought my new golf course home from The Villages Real Estate in 2014, the agent said I was paying over a $100,000 premium for my view of the golf course, a large lake, and the fact there was no golf cart path behind my house. Because of golf course drainage issues, the golf course is now proposing to plant evergreen trees that will partially block my view and add a golf cart path behind my house. When I expressed my concerns to a Ricky, who was behind my house this morning and who I was told was in charge of all the golf courses, I got an arrogant attitude of they can do whatever they want.

So my questions are:
1. Can the golf course do whatever they want, even if it means decreasing the value of adjacent properties? (I'm trying to avoid hiring a lawyer if there really is no recourse.)
2. What is Ricky's last name, title, and email contact info. Same information for his boss.
3. I've tried contacting the CDD and Sumter Co. and can not get a straight answer regarding their need to get a permit. Do they need a permit?
4. Has anyone had success dealing with The Developer to get them to be a good neighbor or taking legal action against them?

Any truly helpful information or comments are appreciated.
I do feel sorry for you. I live on a view lot and paid a premium for the lot. I would not be happy if that situation changed.

It sounds like they have a drainage issue. Golf courses are part of the "drainage" strategy if we get a hurricane. A few years ago after a hurricane courses were closed for a month because they were flooded with water. BUT their strategy saved a lot of homes from being flooded.

I don't know if they are making changes in case of a hurricane, or if this part of the course is constantly soggy... which could damage the course or lead to temporarily closing an amenity.

I do feel your pain. But I think you have an uphill battle.
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Not sure what they are trying to accomplish, halt the building of the apartments? Then what do they expect? An empty lot? Total loss of the facilities? Just curious.
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When I bought my new golf course home from The Villages Real Estate in 2014, the agent said I was paying over a $100,000 premium for my view of the golf course, a large lake, and the fact there was no golf cart path behind my house. Because of golf course drainage issues, the golf course is now proposing to plant evergreen trees that will partially block my view and add a golf cart path behind my house. When I expressed my concerns to a Ricky, who was behind my house this morning and who I was told was in charge of all the golf courses, I got an arrogant attitude of they can do whatever they want.

So my questions are:
1. Can the golf course do whatever they want, even if it means decreasing the value of adjacent properties? (I'm trying to avoid hiring a lawyer if there really is no recourse.)
2. What is Ricky's last name, title, and email contact info. Same information for his boss.
3. I've tried contacting the CDD and Sumter Co. and can not get a straight answer regarding their need to get a permit. Do they need a permit?
4. Has anyone had success dealing with The Developer to get them to be a good neighbor or taking legal action against them?

Any truly helpful information or comments are appreciated.

My layman’s guess. Can the developer put up trees and cart path, yes. Can he lower the value of your property without paying restitution, no.

I’m sure there is FL precedent. Consult a good lawyer.
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Not sure what they are trying to accomplish, halt the building of the apartments? Then what do they expect? An empty lot? Total loss of the facilities? Just curious.
Might give developer second thoughts about putting up lots of apt buildings.
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100,000 for a view lot is cheap today.
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Remember back a few years ago, the big issue of trees being cut down ( because they grew tall) and blocked the premier houses view of the lake in Bridgeport of Lake Sumter village? No one would own up to it ( the owners of the houses did this), they hired a lawyer because the villages wanted the money to replace those trees. The homeowners lost their battle, took up a collection to get the money ( I forgot how much it was) and lo and behold the lawyer presented the villages with the replacement dollars.
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