[newgirl]

Put a stamp on it, first class will get there!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Astron

Yes voting fraud has occurred, but it is incredibly rare and has had no real effect on modern elections. The Heritage Foundation, a very conservative think tank, data base found only 1298 proven cases of voter fraud. You are more likely to get struck by lightning while winning Both the Powerball and Mega Millions lotteries than to see an election outcome successfully effected by voter fraud. This is not a real issue. Voter Fraud Map: Election Fraud Database | The Heritage Foundation

And the issue that people "think" is an issue isn't even voter fraud. It's MAIL voter fraud, exclusively. Because they forget that there has been live-in-person voter fraud, including "misplaced" physical ballots, certain people from certain parties offering rides to the polls, only to ensure that those rides either go to the wrong place, or show up after the polls close (yes, that has happened), or are ordered to not give rides at all (that happened in 2016, it was in the news, captured live at the time it was happening).

Mail-in voter fraud is, in some random person's vernacular, a "nothingberder." It just isn't a thing. It's a conspiracy created by people who know their candidate doesn't stand a chance of winning if people who are unable to get to the polls on election day, are allowed to mail their votes in advance.

Who is most likely to not be able to get to the polls? Here's who:

Poor black, white, and latino people in rural areas of the south. Why? Because their polling places were shut down, and they are forced to travel to areas they don't know. Many of them don't have vehicles, and they don't have mass transit to just take them wherever they need to go. So they end up not voting at all. And - they represent a significant portion of those electoral areas that -might- flip, if those people actually were able to vote that day. Rather than take a chance that their person won't win the election, they just make it difficult to impossible for those voters to vote at all.

[twinklesweep]

If you don't have confidence in voting by mail, then go to the polls and vote. If you're comfortable with voting by mail or dropping off your ballot at a collection site, then vote in this fashion.

However, if you have your own reasons for not voting by mail AND you're adamant that no one should be allowed to vote by mail OR, like the OP, create thinly disguised issues to discourage voting by mail, well, then that's a whole different story....

[nn0wheremann]

Vote early, but don't vote often!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

And the issue that people "think" is an issue isn't even voter fraud. It's MAIL voter fraud, exclusively. Because they forget that there has been live-in-person voter fraud, including "misplaced" physical ballots, certain people from certain parties offering rides to the polls, only to ensure that those rides either go to the wrong place, or show up after the polls close (yes, that has happened), or are ordered to not give rides at all (that happened in 2016, it was in the news, captured live at the time it was happening).

Mail-in voter fraud is, in some random person's vernacular, a "nothingberder." It just isn't a thing. It's a conspiracy created by people who know their candidate doesn't stand a chance of winning if people who are unable to get to the polls on election day, are allowed to mail their votes in advance.

Who is most likely to not be able to get to the polls? Here's who:

Poor black, white, and latino people in rural areas of the south. Why? Because their polling places were shut down, and they are forced to travel to areas they don't know. Many of them don't have vehicles, and they don't have mass transit to just take them wherever they need to go. So they end up not voting at all. And - they represent a significant portion of those electoral areas that -might- flip, if those people actually were able to vote that day. Rather than take a chance that their person won't win the election, they just make it difficult to impossible for those voters to vote at all.

Do you REALLY want someone that is too stupid, sorry ignorant to find a voting place to vote in an election? Sorry but I do not believe that folks that wish to vote would let finding the location to be a problem, just like I do not believe that they would be disenfranchised if required to produce a picture ID.

[mk1126]

Mail it in early - it will be fine;

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ufu1395

A Villages mail carrier just shared this with me.

I have told many customers that if you care about your vote please do not put it through the mail. And that’s highly unfortunate to say but, I do see and hear about the issues the office is having with standard letters and bills. I strongly suggest voting in person, and spreading that word too to yourself friends and anyone who cares about their vote at all.

I have confidence that one of the seven I'm mailing will get through.

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by newgirl

Put a stamp on it, first class will get there!

What about all of the mail that has been lost due to floods, fires, tornadoes and various other disasters? Not all mail gets delivered and it is not always because of fraud.

[CWGUY]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have confidence that one of the seven I'm mailing will get through.

I thought you were from Ohio..... not Chicago!