[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Yes, The Villages could change the rules. But the current rule requires a resident to show their actual, plastic ID card. But some people will argue with a rec center employee who won't accept a copy of the ID card on their phone. This is definitely not as secure as the actual plastic card, and it does NOT comply with the rule. Either get the rule changed or follow the rule. Don't make a copy of your card and expect the rec center employees to honor it.

That's fair. My point was that they SHOULD change the rules. It's 2025 people.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

I agree. I only rarely take my phone anywhere. I don’t like being controlled by technology. But I always have my wallet. How about an embedded microchip for ID, or a retinal scan?

Opposite. I have all my credit cards in Apple Pay, as well as gym membership card, medicare card, AARP card, etc, etc. Never bring a wallet anywhere anymore. $25 cash and my driver's license in one pocket, phone in the other.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

No, I believe they are pointing out that 2FA is currently being used whether the Villager notices it or not.

The attendant *might* look at the picture on your ID. The attendant *does* look at the picture on their device that appears just after the little "yay." That's the 2FA - the physical card and the match between the record and the individual.

I haven't been around to see what happens if the picture doesn't match the individual who presented the card.

Just got off a flight, TSA scans your Real ID and flight comes up in system. No need to show boarding pass. There is nowhere to hide.

So tell me again why we can't have digital Villages ID? Don't buy it if picture comes up after 'yay'.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Just got off a flight, TSA scans your Real ID and flight comes up in system. No need to show boarding pass. There is nowhere to hide.

So tell me again why we can't have digital Villages ID? Don't buy it if picture comes up after 'yay'.

See Post #25

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

No, I believe they are pointing out that 2FA is currently being used whether the Villager notices it or not.

The attendant *might* look at the picture on your ID. The attendant *does* look at the picture on their device that appears just after the little "yay." That's the 2FA - the physical card and the match between the record and the individual.

I haven't been around to see what happens if the picture doesn't match the individual who presented the card.

So if we are using it in the 2FA physical sense now, why are people asking for more 2FA as more modernization?

And if what you say is correct, the scanning an ID on a phone picture would produce the same 2FA result, correct?

So why do we need to invest a ton more money to improve an adequately functioning system? because some people think that technology solves all real and imaginary problems, but at a very significant cost as the significance of the issue goes down?

Villages gathering at a meeting and villagers gathering at a pool should in no way suggest that millions in infrastructure needs to be added. . .especially when phones can't go swimming as well. .

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

So if we are using it in the 2FA physical sense now, why are people asking for more 2FA as more modernization?

And if what you say is correct, the scanning an ID on a phone picture would produce the same 2FA result, correct?

So why do we need to invest a ton more money to improve an adequately functioning system? because some people think that technology solves all real and imaginary problems, but at a very significant cost as the significance of the issue goes down?

Villages gathering at a meeting and villagers gathering at a pool should in no way suggest that millions in infrastructure needs to be added. . .especially when phones can't go swimming as well. .

Scanning a photo *might* work - see post #57

A digital-wallet based ID or a digital representation of an ID through the Villages free app would avoid some of those problems.

[JStyles]

Originally Posted by rhood

I can use my phone’s and watch’s capabilities to enter Costco, Sam’s, pay for merchandise at stores and restaurants, etc
There is no reason a similar secure system couldn’t be used to access amenities, gates, pools, rec centers, etc.
I am against anything that would require me to carry another card or device to use facilities.
Florida drivers license will soon be digital.
The less I have to carry, the better. It all could be done digitally.

I have often thought the same. Genesis does it, Panera, etc. There is no reason they can’t make that work.

[JStyles]

Originally Posted by Velvet

Yes, but who says you HAVE to use the amenities? If you don’t want to carry the card. Don’t. Like a drivers’ license, you don’t want to carry, just don’t drive.

The note about the driver’s license was that with the Real ID, we won’t have to carry a drivers license. So…you don’t have to bring a physical ID and you still get to drive. 😉 yeah

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JStyles

The note about the driver’s license was that with the Real ID, we won’t have to carry a drivers license. So…you don’t have to bring a physical ID and you still get to drive. 😉 yeah

What does Real ID have to do with carrying a license? If anything, the additional information required to get a Real ID license would make it *more* desirable to carry.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Opposite. I have all my credit cards in Apple Pay, as well as gym membership card, medicare card, AARP card, etc, etc. Never bring a wallet anywhere anymore. $25 cash and my driver's license in one pocket, phone in the other.

But a phone is such a nuisance to carry. Even the smallest one. Why not wait till AI is in the sunglasses. Should be any day now.

[Bogie Shooter]

Chip implant…….left arms only.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Chip implant…….left arms only.

Naw, it can be hacked…

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Velvet

But a phone is such a nuisance to carry. Even the smallest one. Why not wait till AI is in the sunglasses. Should be any day now.

I must be in some other TV. I play all kinds of sports, clubs, etc and have never seen one person who does not have their phone with them. Possible exception would be at the pool, and even then it seems almost everyone has a phone.

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

I must be in some other TV. I play all kinds of sports, clubs, etc and have never seen one person who does not have their phone with them. Possible exception would be at the pool, and even then it seems almost everyone has a phone.

Yes, some are addicted to their little phones. I hate dragging a phone around and since when can't phones be hacked?

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Aces4

Yes, some are addicted to their little phones.

Some? The vast majority would be more accurate. And you don't have to be addicted to want to remain connected at all (most) times.

I hate dragging a phone around and since when can't phones be hacked?

Phones can be hacked. Physical IDs can be forged (ask any bouncer). The level of security between digital ID and physical ID is negligible. Otherwise Apple Pay and Google Pay wouldn't exist.