[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I dunno, it looked like everyone did what they were supposed to do, other than the guy on the inside lane using his signal to indicate he was exiting out of the circle (that would be his RIGHT turn signal, for those who still insist that halfway around the circle is "straight" and 3/4 around the circle is a "left turn" by the way. Every single exit is a RIGHT exit out of the circle.).

Each care was paced safely away from each other car, and everyone went at a nice staggered pace around and out.

The white car was in the wrong lane.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I dunno, it looked like everyone did what they were supposed to do,

Each care was paced safely away from each other car, and everyone went at a nice staggered pace around and out.

No. The white SUV should've taken either the first or second "exit".
rustyp's attachment in post #13 says it all

Originally Posted by rustyp

Before too many feet are inserted into mouths study this. I would have published the entire pamphlet but the majority wouldn't read it anyway.

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[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Shadywood

So who was the idiot in the video?

There was no idiot.

Each driver behaved normally. If you expect anything different, you are dreaming.

Of course, the driver in the right lane should not have gone 3/4 way around the roundabout, but a lot of drivers do that. We should expect it to happen and be prepared for it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Shadywood

I do it too. It's just what the Villages saleslady told me, and the confusing arrows tend to confirm it.

So who was the idiot in the video? The guy in the left lane, for failing to signal?

Personally, I find the idiots who use TOV to complain about their neighbors all the time more annoying than a guy exiting a traffic circle without signalling.

The guy I left lane only has us to signal IF he going to third exit. He DONT have to signal going straight, going straight is NOT turning. The idiot in right lane if got hit by the person in Left lane would of got the ticket for NOT yielding. You can’t just blunder around to third exit in the right outside lane. It just like turning left on 4 lane road from the right lane.

[davem4616]

hey deal with it, in Boston we never used a turn signal...why would we ever wanna give the enemy any information on what we're planning to do???

It's tough world out there...drive defensively and expect the unexpected

[Malsua]

These circles should simply go to one lane to prevent this confusion. You get in the circle when it's clear, exit when you want. No one crossing in front of anyone else.

[Nucky]

Suppose today was the first time the White SUV was ever on The Villages premises. They are in the outer lane approaching the roundabout then enter the roundabout and realize they want to continue to the next exit in the roundabout just like they did. Would a left-hand blinker applied sooner make what they did correct? Yes or No??

Many people have zero experience with the road conditions that present themself in The Villages. Many places where curbs are placed and not brightly painted are another trouble spot. Curbs are also put in unusual spots throughout the entire operation. That would be on the street and on the Cart Paths.

Whatever. It's gonna be what it's gonna be. NOTHING will ever stop the foolishness we witness daily. The best you can do is protect yourself. Best of Luck to All.

[Polar Bear]

I think a lot of drivers new to The Villages and roundabouts feel like the safest way to travel them is to stick to the outside lane and go slow…no matter which exit they plan to take.

For newbs, I can’t really blame them. And if more experienced drivers follow the important rules of yielding to both lanes in the roundabout and not driving next to any vehicle while in the roundabout, it doesn’t result in a problem.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Malsua

These circles should simply go to one lane to prevent this confusion. You get in the circle when it's clear, exit when you want. No one crossing in front of anyone else.

And watch everyone fight for that one lane and watch the traffic back up for blocks. That's why all modern roundabout construction is multi lane. Single lane creates road rage.....heck here, two lane roundabouts create road range.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Ah okay I spaced out on that first exit, it came up basically right after you entered.

This is the hard part though: what would you have done if the white car had come in from that spot, and was planning on going 2 exits away (one further than you)? He'd still be where he was, and you'd still be where you were, and he'd have the right to continue in that lane, and you'd still have the right to exit from your lane.

That's WHY these traffic circles are so harrowing. Because it really doesn't matter what lane you are "supposed" to be in. If I came in from the exit before yours, and I came in on the inner lane, and I'm taking my second exit...and you show up in the outer lane and you're taking YOUR second exit - we're both doing what we are allowed to do. Except - there's that risk that I'm going to try and take that exit I'm allowed to take, while you're still heading toward the exit you're allowed take - and there might just be a potential for a crash unless everyone is going at exactly the right speed, at exactly the right distance from each other, in exactly the right order.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Ah okay I spaced out on that first exit, it came up basically right after you entered.

This is the hard part though: what would you have done if the white car had come in from that spot, and was planning on going 2 exits away (one further than you)? He'd still be where he was, and you'd still be where you were, and he'd have the right to continue in that lane, and you'd still have the right to exit from your lane.

That's WHY these traffic circles are so harrowing. Because it really doesn't matter what lane you are "supposed" to be in. If I came in from the exit before yours, and I came in on the inner lane, and I'm taking my second exit...and you show up in the outer lane and you're taking YOUR second exit - we're both doing what we are allowed to do. Except - there's that risk that I'm going to try and take that exit I'm allowed to take, while you're still heading toward the exit you're allowed take - and there might just be a potential for a crash unless everyone is going at exactly the right speed, at exactly the right distance from each other, in exactly the right order.

In your example, if the vehicle entering second yields to the vehicle already in the circle then their will be no conflict. The vehicle already in the circle, the one in the inner lane, will have time to exit where he wants before the second vehicle reaches the same spot.

[Two Bills]

The whole point of roundabouts is continuous flow, which is why correct lane discipline is paramount.
If all cars enter in the correct lane no car would have to give way.
A roundabout is nothing more than a road junction/crossroad.
Would you turn left from the right hand lane at a normal crossroad?
Same lane discipline at a roundabout.

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by JoMar

That's why all modern roundabout construction is multi lane. Single lane creates road rage.....heck here, two lane roundabouts create road range.

I know of roundabouts here in NJ that were built in the last few years that are single lane. High volume too. No issues.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

The whole point of roundabouts is continuous flow, which is why correct lane discipline is paramount.
If all cars enter in the correct lane no car would have to give way.
A roundabout is nothing more than a road junction/crossroad.
Would you turn left from the right hand lane at a normal crossroad?
Same lane discipline at a roundabout.

Agree, as long as a car entering the RB yields to cars in BOTH lanes, as they are required to by law. Otherwise you end up with the scenario 2 posts above, where a vehicle going straight after entering the outer lane crosses in front of a vehicle that is in the inner lane that is going straight from his entrance 90 degrees earlier

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

What you see here happens constantly. When will people finally learn the correct way in a roundabout?

Another Idiot Driver In The Villages - YouTube

I am pretty sure that some never will learn how to drive the roundabouts especially after reading some of these posts. Turn signals in roundabouts are senseless IMO if you are in the correct lane for the exit you take then it is seamless. I see left turn signals in roundabouts when a left can not be made. The big key is that he who is already in the roundabout has the right of way so don’t enter said roundabout until vehicles already in roundabout have passed you NO MATTER WHAT LANE THEY ARE IN.