[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

How many times have we all seen the large groups of cyclists blow through STOP signs? They say they slow down and look for on-coming cars but do not unhook from their pedals.

The sign is not just a suggestion, cyclists.

You want to be considered a part of traffic - please obey the rules.

As for giving the police officer a plate number and saying the driver broke the law? Ridiculous! Posting his plate on TOTV? Irresponsible and quite possibly he could sue you for doing! If it was my plate, I would be contacting Attorney Dan Newlin.

Not to mention the possible libeling of the police officer who was named. If department policy is to not address complaints of this nature, then he's skating on thin ice.

[outlaw]

I believe, going north on BV at ECR, the lines in the RAB indicate that both the left AND right lanes individually continue for the first exit. That would lead most people to think that the inside/left lane has the right of way exiting at ECR. To continue north on BV in the right lane, forces traffic in the right lane to cross a dotted line as the traffic enters the left lane. The ridiculous signs that are too small to read while busy watching the road and traffic indicate that one should not be in the left lane if exiting the first exit. Big confusion, thus the officer probably did not want to spend otherwise valuable time tracking down and "teaching" someone the confusing/conflicting rules of TV RABs. This scenario happens at least once a day, only with two autos. If you bikers want to play on the roads built for 4000 pound killing machines, you better get used to these events. Otherwise, you can join the sane bikers on the MMPs and residential streets.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by venecia

A question to the cycling community. A group of cyclists riding two abreast come to a four way stop sign. How many are permitted to cross at once? My thought is the first two riders with the rest of the pack taking their turn to stop.

According to the sheriff's office, they are supposed to be riding single file if they are traveling slower than the surrounding traffic.

[VApeople]

The moral to all of these stories: It is dangerous to ride a bike or drive a cart on a road where cars are driving.

Of course, nothing in life is free of risk. We just need to accept the risk of the activities we choose to enjoy. If the pleasure of riding a bike or driving a cart is important to you, then by all means do it, but you have to accept the fact that many people drive a car with their head in a warm, dark place.

[ditka41]

Perhaps the Sheriff would take an interest in this whole incident, and even be grateful to know of the attitudes of his employees IF incorrect. Why not discuss it with him and see where that goes? ---Usually there at least two sides to every encounter. I gave up motorcycling mainly because the drivers here can not be trusted to navigate a round-about properly.

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I believe, going north on BV at ECR, the lines in the RAB indicate that both the left AND right lanes individually continue for the first exit. That would lead most people to think that the inside/left lane has the right of way exiting at ECR. To continue north on BV in the right lane, forces traffic in the right lane to cross a dotted line as the traffic enters the left lane. The ridiculous signs that are too small to read while busy watching the road and traffic indicate that one should not be in the left lane if exiting the first exit. Big confusion, thus the officer probably did not want to spend otherwise valuable time tracking down and "teaching" someone the confusing/conflicting rules of TV RABs. This scenario happens at least once a day, only with two autos. If you bikers want to play on the roads built for 4000 pound killing machines, you better get used to these events. Otherwise, you can join the sane bikers on the MMPs and residential streets.

The movement of vehicles in a roundabout is dictated by the lane they are in when entering the RAB, not the lines on the road. What you are suggesting is the same as making a right turn from the left lane at a regular intersection.

[Chatbrat]

Same goes for the late model white Camry, that ran the 4 way stop @ DelMar & Rio Grande-he followed the car that was in front of him-just to wait @ the traffic light @ Morse Blvd

[Greg Nelson]

what's the hurry?

[biker1]

Actually that is not what the law says. The law says that cyclists can ride two abreast as long as they aren't impeding the flow of traffic. In reality, cyclists cannot impede the flow of traffic on the roads in The Villages because they are sub-standard width and a bike and a car cannot coexist in the same lane. Cars must use the other lane to pass regardless of whether the cyclists are single file or two abreast - it doesn't matter. If the roads were wide enough for a car and single file bikes to coexist in the same lane, then riding two abreast could impeded the flow of traffic if it was a two-lane road. On four lane roads, cyclists cannot impede the flow of traffic regardless of the width of the lane because there is a passing lane. This has been discussed numerous times before.

Cyclists Riding Two Abreast | Florida Bicycle Law

Originally Posted by outlaw

According to the sheriff's office, they are supposed to be riding single file if they are traveling slower than the surrounding traffic.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

The movement of vehicles in a roundabout is dictated by the lane they are in when entering the RAB, not the lines on the road. What you are suggesting is the same as making a right turn from the left lane at a regular intersection.

I understand what you are saying, but....the lines DO confuse the issue. Lines are placed on the roads to provide guidance to the drivers, thus the confusion. Now add in the visitor factor, and you have the perfect storm. This scenario happens daily in TV RABs.

[virgind]

I would find out who posted my lis number and sue you first off. You have a picture and no proof. 2nd I posted a comment about bikes not yielding to traffic in general. If you are a big enough group and a club you need to either get a chase car or get with the District and have the lanes or streets block for your ride. I could tell you about bikes not stopping at stop signs,not yielding at circles not signaling for turns and many more. Some of these groups are causing attitudes as where do you get off thinking you own the road.It's hell this time of the year with traffic. Be safe and have a great day. I also think that TOTV should remove this post as this might be considered slanderous. They are a part of it. You people are nuts

[Walter123]

I almost ran over a couple of idiot bicyclists with my SUV the other day. I was waiting at Bailey Trail and St. Charles in a line of cars at a red light and making a right when two bikes rode up on the diagonal white line area passing stopped cars on the right. They went straight. What the heck is wrong with some people.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by biker1

Actually that is not what the law says. The law says that cyclists can ride two abreast as long as they aren't impeding the flow of traffic. In reality, cyclists cannot impede the flow of traffic on the roads in The Villages because they are sub-standard width and a bike and a car cannot coexist in the same lane. Cars must use the other lane to pass regardless of whether the cyclists are single file or two abreast - it doesn't matter. If the roads were wide enough for a car and bike to coexist in the same lane then riding two abreast could impeded the flow of traffic. This has been discussed numerous times before.

That isn't what the deputy said according to the POA. You have interpreted the law to fit your desired outcome...imo. From one cyclist to another, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[biker1]

I read the article and I have read the law and it is quite clear that bikes cannot impede the flow of traffic on sub-standard width roads. Single file riders can occupy an entire lane legally and will not be impeding the flow of traffic if they are sub-standard width. The point you missed is that the deputy's comments only refer to standard width roads. He already acknowledged that the roads must be standard width (which they aren't in The Villages).

Originally Posted by outlaw

That isn't what the deputy said according to the POA. You have interpreted the law to fit your desired outcome...imo. From one cyclist to another, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

[PennBF]

How many have seen a number of bike riders occupying an almost total lane with a true sense of entitlement. They believe that as a large group they have the right over all others. It is no surprise that some times the cars get fed up with that arrogrance. As I understood the law bikes are to be wihin 3 feed of the curb.