[Chatbrat]

Another bike rider had a real death wish last week. He blew through the traffic circle yield sign at full speed across the intersection of St. Charles & Buena Vista--

I'm thinking about getting a dash cam-it might save me and my insurance company some $$$ if things continue on the same path ,here

maximum density with an aging population--lots of problems ahead

[biker1]

That is incorrect. You might wish to look up the law. Cyclists have the same rights and responsibilities as cars and can occupy an entire lane, just like cars, on sub-standard width roads (as we have in The Villages). There are several instances where you will see cyclists more to the center of a lane for safety reasons. This will happen often when approaching roundabouts to prevent cars from squeezing cyclists into the curbs. The Village's roads are not wide enough for a bike and car to coexist in the same lane (sub-standard width roads). Most cyclists will normally stay in the right most third of the right lane but there is still insufficient width for a car to pass in the same lane. You must move to the other lane when passing.

Originally Posted by PennBF

How many have seen a number of bike riders occupying an almost total lane with a true sense of entitlement. They believe that as a large group they have the right over all others. It is no surprise that some times the cars get fed up with that arrogrance. As I understood the law bikes are to be wihin 3 feed of the curb.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Same goes for the late model white Camry, that ran the 4 way stop @ DelMar & Rio Grande-he followed the car that was in front of him-just to wait @ the traffic light @ Morse Blvd

Don't be too hard on him. Maybe he is a cyclist that forgot he was in his car...

[biker1]

And you are surprised? Rolling through stop signs is pretty common around here.

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Same goes for the late model white Camry, that ran the 4 way stop @ DelMar & Rio Grande-he followed the car that was in front of him-just to wait @ the traffic light @ Morse Blvd

[Chatbrat]

could be didn't see any bike rack

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

could be didn't see any bike rack

Could it be that intersection is considered substandard, therefore anyone can "take the intersection"?

[BobnBev]

Start with Lt. Seimer, and continue up to Sheriff Bill Farmer. If you have proof (a Video) and are willing to go to court, an arrest is required.IMHO

[Kevin and Luci]

Have not seen a response to this question. Based on observation on many occasions I would venture to say the riders went through as a group..... This tends to complicate the issue in many ways. If I were traveling with a group of car show buddies could we all just go at the same time and expect others to enjoy the parade? I don't think so......

Originally Posted by venecia

A question to the cycling community. A group of cyclists riding two abreast come to a four way stop sign. How many are permitted to cross at once? My thought is the first two riders with the rest of the pack taking their turn to stop.

[biker1]

If it is clear, you may see some roll through the stop sign at a slow speed. If it isn't, they will unclip and wait. Pretty much what many cars and golf carts do.

Originally Posted by Kevin and Luci

Have not seen a response to this question. Based on observation on many occasions I would venture to say the riders went through as a group..... This tends to complicate the issue in many ways. If I were traveling with a group of car show buddies could we all just go at the same time and expect others to enjoy the parade? I don't think so......

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by virgind

I would find out who posted my lis number and sue you first off. You have a picture and no proof. 2nd I posted a comment about bikes not yielding to traffic in general. If you are a big enough group and a club you need to either get a chase car or get with the District and have the lanes or streets block for your ride. I could tell you about bikes not stopping at stop signs,not yielding at circles not signaling for turns and many more. Some of these groups are causing attitudes as where do you get off thinking you own the road.It's hell this time of the year with traffic. Be safe and have a great day. I also think that TOTV should remove this post as this might be considered slanderous. They are a part of it. You people are nuts

You may be correct but when I questioned the practice of the "other online paper" showing photo of bad parking along with license plates; I was told by many that there was no liability. Who knows? Well, at least I don't know. Btw, I used to be a cyclist and this is a battle no one will ever win. Drivers that have never cycled just don't get it and cyclist don't understand why it's really that offensive for vehicles to slow down for 2 or 3 minutes. Each has valid arguments but I wish we could be kind and share the road.

[CritterLover]

Originally Posted by VApeople

The moral to all of these stories: It is dangerous to ride a bike or drive a cart on a road where cars are driving.

Of course, nothing in life is free of risk. We just need to accept the risk of the activities we choose to enjoy. If the pleasure of riding a bike or driving a cart is important to you, then by all means do it, but you have to accept the fact that many people drive a car with their head in a warm, dark place.

Why do we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway? Couldn't resist.

[virgind]

Good point jojo, but parking is one thing. The original poster could have been implying the driver of the SUV may have been trying to hit him. Which I don't think he was.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by virgind

Good point jojo, but parking is one thing. The original poster could have been implying the driver of the SUV may have been trying to hit him. Which I don't think he was.

Some people when passing get about half car length then swerve over in front of you cursing you to brake to keep from hitting them. It's called being cut-off. Happens all the time. some at least have the courtesy to use they're blinker light as they cut you off. Some People who done the rat race for 50 years can't stop or even see they are doing anything wrong.

What really pi$$es me off when they cut you off then slam on their brakes and turn which leaves you so distraught that you didn't hit them you can think for few minutes.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

How many times have we all seen the large groups of cyclists blow through STOP signs? They say they slow down and look for on-coming cars but do not unhook from their pedals.

The sign is not just a suggestion, cyclists.

You want to be considered a part of traffic - please obey the rules.

As for giving the police officer a plate number and saying the driver broke the law? Ridiculous! Posting his plate on TOTV? Irresponsible and quite possibly he could sue you for doing! If it was my plate, I would be contacting Attorney Dan Newlin.

Those people are treading on litigious ground when they make one-sided accusations that "someone is trying to kill them" and then go so far as to post a license plate. Big no-no people, big no-no.

[dirtbanker]

Originally Posted by biker1

That is incorrect. You might wish to look up the law. Cyclists have the same rights and responsibilities as cars and can occupy an entire lane, just like cars, on sub-standard width roads (as we have in The Villages). There are several instances where you will see cyclists more to the center of a lane for safety reasons. This will happen often when approaching roundabouts to prevent cars from squeezing cyclists into the curbs. The Village's roads are not wide enough for a bike and car to coexist in the same lane (sub-standard width roads). Most cyclists will normally stay in the right most third of the right lane but there is still insufficient width for a car to pass in the same lane. You must move to the other lane when passing.

If they have the same rights and responsibilities as cars why don't they pay for license plates? Why don't they have to have proof of insurance? Why don't they contribute to road tax fund?

If the roads are "sub-standard width" in the Villages, why don't you "Lance Armstrong Wanna Be"s throw your silly outfits on and ride your bike on a stand in your driveway? You would not have to worry about being squeezed into curbs and you don't have to worry about any SUV trying to kill you.