[Chazz]

[quote=tommy steam;623011]

Originally Posted by ureout

This morning I was riding my bike on the Buena Vista multi modal path near the Bel Air entrance. A bicycle club passed me, about 20 riders. As they were going past me 2 riders shook there heads and pointed at there ears because I was listening to my I pod and then a 3rd rider near the end of the pack yelled at me saying listening to that is illegal!!! Now here is the good part just up ahead the trail merges with the entrance road and there is a BIG RED STOP SIGN that all 20 bikers decided to just blow right thru it....I guess when you are in an offical bike club you get to pick and choose the rules of the road you wish to adhere

I would say both things are dangerous. Blowing a stop sign and listening to an I pod while on your bike. Please be careful ,enjoy the beautiful scenery .

You're right about the group and that stop sign; and, they were right about the headset (FL316.304).

[tzangrilli]

The old saying applies-----"do as I say, not as I do"

[Mikeod]

Originally Posted by BentBoy

There is something wrong with you people. All I ever read about is complaining about bikes and carts and cars and how everyone is a bad driver or is not obeying the law or one shouldn't ride on a particular road or path. I thought this was supposed to be the friendliest home town. I think it should be called the "un-friendliest" home town, the way everyone is always bickering about something or someone. This is the worse place I have ever lived. Maybe the solution should be not to have a forum for people to complain to. Then no one has to read this $#%@

First, intertwined in all the posts, complaining or not, there is good information that may help educate some people who are unaware of some rules and/or regulations.

Second, you are not being forced to read any posts on this board. If you do not like e subject or tone, the back button will take you away from the thread.

Third, there is some irony in a post complaining about people complaining.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by BentBoy

There is something wrong with you people. All I ever read about is complaining about bikes and carts and cars and how everyone is a bad driver or is not obeying the law or one shouldn't ride on a particular road or path. I thought this was supposed to be the friendliest home town. I think it should be called the "un-friendliest" home town, the way everyone is always bickering about something or someone. This is the worse place I have ever lived. Maybe the solution should be not to have a forum for people to complain to. Then no one has to read this $#%@

This forum is not owned by The Villages. This forum is owned by private individuals who do not live here and have no connection to the official villages or to the developers.

The owners I find to be very fair and their handling of sticky issues is appropriate and swift.

There are many, many positive posts and many negative posts, just as there are all kinds of people.

P.S. No one likes to be called "You people".

I am sorry you think this is the worst place you ever lived.

[CFrance]

You know, I really hate it when someone gets on this forum and dictates to the masses, referring to us as "you people." The term You People is so rude. It's like the poster is holding him- or herself above the rest of us, as in they know best. "You people need to leave your dogs at home." "Come on, people, do/don't do such-and such." "What's wrong with you people?" Etc.

On this forum, the "people" are not supposed to be maligned. Their opinions can be disputed, but in a polite manner. If a poster can't be polite, he/she should go elsewhere. There's lots of other forums that allow people to slam others.

[mickey100]

There has been a lot of that type of talk on TOTV. If someone voices their displeasure with the developer, they get that "if you don't like it you can leave The villages" speech.

That being said, I didn't find this post to be terribly rude. It just sounded incredulous, like "I can't believe they go on and on and on about bicycle riders".

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[rodway120@aol.com]

Bikers feel they have the same rights as a car - but almost never stop at a stop sign

How about campaign to ticket this and make the roads safer for all

[GaryW]

Originally Posted by rodway120@aol.com

Bikers feel they have the same rights as a car - but almost never stop at a stop sign

How about campaign to ticket this and make the roads safer for all

That already happens. Just as with cars, motorcycles, golfcarts. The day you make all the vehicles stop and obey the rules, then you will have something to talk about. Not just one type of vehicle it is all the masses.

[Chazz]

Originally Posted by GaryW

That already happens. Just as with cars, motorcycles, golfcarts. The day you make all the vehicles stop and obey the rules, then you will have something to talk about. Not just one type of vehicle it is all the masses.

Well said!

[tzangrilli]

The sherriff's deputy's don't even stop at stop signs or obey speed limits or navigate roundabouts correctly so who would issue the tickets?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by normgreg

Whether your vehicle has two wheels or ten wheels, STOP signs require stopping. Same thing goes for our gates. Cars & trucks stop, cyclists don't feel the need.

Many of the gates have a space at the end for golf carts and bicycles to pass without stopping.

[tzangrilli]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Many of the gates have a space at the end for golf carts and bicycles to pass without stopping.

ALL vehicles (cars,carts,bikes)are supposed to stop at gates. It doesn't matter if the gate is up or down. Two years ago all gate arms were supposed to be replaced with arms long enough to prevent anyone from passing when in the down position but as the gates are damaged the arms have been cut off and reused. They were not cut short for carts and bikes. The biggest problem is the inconsistently with our gates. Some stay up too long, some too short, some exit gates don't activate for bicycles, some do, manned gatekeepers don't agree which lane a bicycle should use. However, if you come to a complete stop at any manned gate they will open the gate for you.

[CFrance]

We had an interesting experience with a cyclist group yesterday. We were already in a roundabout on BV, when to our right came a cycling group which didn't yield. They all had their heads down looking at the ground and simply ignored the yield sign. There was a car that had entered the roundabout just behind and beside us. We were stuck... couldn't move over because of that second car, and we were in Ron's very wide Dodge Magnum station wagon. It was scary being so close to them. We slowed to a crawl to let them and the other car get ahead of us, but that's not so safe to do either.

I wish they would have a little bit more situational awareness. It reminded me of our dog who, when he doesn't want to deal with something, turns his head and looks away. "If I can't see it, it's not happening!"

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Many of the gates have a space at the end for golf carts and bicycles to pass without stopping.

Originally Posted by tzangrilli

ALL vehicles (cars,carts,bikes)are supposed to stop at gates. It doesn't matter if the gate is up or down.

The main gate on Belvedere at 466 has an arm that is short. Cars must stop, but the arm permits golf carts to easily pass beside the arm without merging with traffic and using a card. In six years, I've never once seen a bicycle or a golf cart use a card.

Tzangrilli, are you positive that golf carts should always leave the golf cart path and merge with traffic, so they can use their card to open the gate? Since it is a "pretend security gate", why would they need to do this?