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What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄
They are there so you can cross in your cart safer. As long as you have been here and still don’t know what the gates are for c
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:06 AM
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Have to agree. Many, not all, don't stand out the way they should due to the reasons given above.
You would think after being here a week you would realize that every cart path crossing has a gate and expect there to be one blended in or not. I also have never seen landscaping with stripes.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:26 AM
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Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!
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Have to agree. Many, not all, don't stand out the way they should due to the reasons given above.
The entrance to every village has a gate. Expect it, look for it, stop until you see that it is up....simple.

You can also notice the shacks and white boxes at the entrances. It is difficult for those to blend into landscaping, traffic lights, or tail lights.

If you happen to find an entrance that does not have a gate - congratulations! Take note of where it is and remember that you don't need to stop at *that* entrance. But for all others, expect a gate, look for a gate, and stop until you see that the gate is not blocking your way.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:42 AM
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The entrance to every village has a gate. Expect it, look for it, stop until you see that it is up....simple.

You can also notice the shacks and white boxes at the entrances. It is difficult for those to blend into landscaping, traffic lights, or tail lights.

If you happen to find an entrance that does not have a gate - congratulations! Take note of where it is and remember that you don't need to stop at *that* entrance. But for all others, expect a gate, look for a gate, and stop until you see that the gate is not blocking your way.
Stopping for gates should not be so hard if you have enough intelligence to drive
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:58 AM
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Because crime has sky rocketed since 2010
I understand crime completely, but not manning gates and just hitting a button to get in makes zero sense. First of all, your reply makes no sense. I said I was for gates. I like the concept of gates. I like the protection from gates. BUT not gates that ANYONE can push a button to get through. What’s the point at that moment? Why have a gate at that point? Is it to just make villagers “feel safe”? It’s ridiculous. Period.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:59 AM
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Most gated communities have cameras focused on their gates which record licenses of cars that break gates in their communities and send these register cars owners a bill for the repairs which must pay or go to court that has worked very well.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:04 AM
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They are there so you can cross in your cart safer. As long as you have been here and still don’t know what the gates are for c
First of all, I see it as safety for the community, not for golf carts. The gates are on the entrance roads where golf carts need to “yield”. This has nothing to do with golf carts. Maybe put a path around for golf carts if your worried about the danger of golf cart safety.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:07 AM
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The gates cause (most) drivers to stop and swipe. on many multimodal crossings you can see the gate down but not the car, like the one on Hillsborough and Buena Vista. A speed bump might cause (most) drivers to slow down but not solve the visibility issue.
Hello?! I’m definitely not for speed bumps! I’m for having people at the little gate buildings to verify people who don’t have their electronic gate card. Period!
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:19 AM
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They are for traffic control, not security...
In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:21 AM
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the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...
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Old 10-16-2022, 08:30 AM
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First of all, I see it as safety for the community, not for golf carts. The gates are on the entrance roads where golf carts need to “yield”. This has nothing to do with golf carts. Maybe put a path around for golf carts if your worried about the danger of golf cart safety.
A path around what???

They still have to cross the road. Would you suggest it's safer for them to cross somewhere where there is no gate to slow down traffic?

Oh, and it has EVERYTHING to do with golf carts...
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Old 10-16-2022, 08:33 AM
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In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.
"Felt" like it was for security? Since anyone could always just push the red button, it was NEVER for security...

Although the camera taking pics as you leave could help with security...
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Old 10-16-2022, 11:03 AM
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A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Here is a link to one type of flexible gate arm.

Virtually Unbreakable Parking Gate Arm Replacements
Forget that. I say use cast iron gates! That'll teach um to quit ramming them! Let them explain that damage to their insurance companies.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:32 PM
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I understand crime completely, but not manning gates and just hitting a button to get in makes zero sense. First of all, your reply makes no sense. I said I was for gates. I like the concept of gates. I like the protection from gates. BUT not gates that ANYONE can push a button to get through. What’s the point at that moment? Why have a gate at that point? Is it to just make villagers “feel safe”? It’s ridiculous. Period.
The gates here in The Villages have absolutely NOTHING to do with safety. They are there to slow traffic so golf carts can proceed at the gates. Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed. I drive a golf cart besides a car and willingly will wait for traffic to clear to proceed on my way.
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In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.
I'm here since 2009 and I never thought those gates are for security. There is a red button anyone can push to enter the villages. Where is the security in that? There is none. Those gates are to slow traffic down so golf carts can proceed at the gates.
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