[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by LAFwUs

the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...

Wow, I didn’t know they had scan cards back in 1953.

[maistocars]

Originally Posted by starflyte1

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.

Fully agree - not enough light on the gates themselves and the card reader on the resident side is way too close to the gate as your car is almost touching the gate when you get to the reader.

[Bilyclub]

Don't see any anger, just the usual arguments. I again vote with keeping the gates.

[Wilson02852]

Probably mechanical failure is the main culprit.

Why not put flashing solar powered LEDs on the cross bars to increase visibility. This is used in many locations that have traffic control gates. Also put on the "no carts beyond" signs. Low initial cost and low maintenance.

[Bilyclub]

Originally Posted by Wilson02852

Probably mechanical failure is the main culprit.

Why not put flashing solar powered LEDs on the cross bars to increase visibility. This is used in many locations that have traffic control gates. Also put on the "no carts beyond" signs. Low initial cost and low maintenance.

The gates will still be hit and leds will break when hit by a car increasing and complicating putting the metal pole back on. Most places don't have the number of gates that TV has and the gates are getting hit mostly during the day. The problem is the driver's eyesight and they shouldn't be driving.

[Manders]

Good god no on speed bumps!! Its obvious those that suggest such an idea haven't thought that solution out… they waste money, damage vehicles,carts, are dangerous to bike riders, and most importantly slow down emergency vehicles when responding to an emergency. If the offenders who smack gate bars cant figure those out, think about them driving full speed over a speed bump.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Rwirish

Better way is to pay attention, slow down and as the sign states the gate closes after each car.

Trailers??

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Manders

Good god no on speed bumps!! Its obvious those that suggest such an idea haven't thought that solution out… they waste money, damage vehicles,carts, are dangerous to bike riders, and most importantly slow down emergency vehicles when responding to an emergency. If the offenders who smack gate bars cant figure those out, think about them driving full speed over a speed bump.

Very well said

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by crash

The gates don’t break they are break away think high jump bar. You are charged to fix the gate was $200 don’t know what the current price is.

A high jump bar is loosely set on a pin, and comes off without damaging the bar. That is not how the gate bars are attached. They are a heavy metal tube attached to a metal sleeved operator with two through bolts and nuts. When they break away, the end of the bar is dented and the bolts are damaged and pulled out of the sleeve. Not exactly a breakaway connection.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

The gates will still be hit and leds will break when hit by a car increasing and complicating putting the metal pole back on. Most places don't have the number of gates that TV has and the gates are getting hit mostly during the day. The problem is the driver's eyesight and they shouldn't be driving.

Poor eyesight and impatience.

[Dantes]

They do get charged any damage to district property your insurance must pay for it.

[Old Bob]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Here is a link to one type of flexible gate arm.

Virtually Unbreakable Parking Gate Arm Replacements

They used to have flexible gates, that would just bend and then flop back in place. The state made them change to the ones they use now.

[Remlod]

It’s a profit center. They charge for every hit as if they replace the arm when in most cases they reuse them until they’re too short. It doesn’t cost $200 to reinstall the arm.

[fcgiii]

Originally Posted by Jandj1987

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

The gates cause (most) drivers to stop and swipe. on many multimodal crossings you can see the gate down but not the car, like the one on Hillsborough and Buena Vista. A speed bump might cause (most) drivers to slow down but not solve the visibility issue.

[Mrs.Guy]

Originally Posted by Remlod

It’s a profit center. They charge for every hit as if they replace the arm when in most cases they reuse them until they’re too short. It doesn’t cost $200 to reinstall the arm.

How about the internal damage that hitting a gate causes? I would imagine that is part of the problem.

Also, could you please tell us what it does cost seeing how you are a gate expert? TIA.