[CFrance]

Originally Posted by johnboy

I think there is a little over reaction on this issue. The affected people make it sound like now they will not be able to get to the grocery store or shop at Walmart. They can still go over the bridge and go to multiple grocery stores, Publix, etc., loads of stores like Target, Ace Hardware etc. The developer has made this a great place to live and that is why most of us have moved here, so support him. There may be other issues involved in this closing such as a liability.

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Many would rather not shop at the overpriced Publix's or Target, or the "have nothing" ACE hardware...

I agree with you, NoMoSno. Of course people will still have access to grocery stores and hardware stores, but not the ones they have been used to getting to more easily and faster for the last 20 years--their favorite, affordable places to shop. Not to mention those who must get to work or to their doctor on a cart, and now cannot. So I think johnboy's post is an oversimplification. I feel for these people and do not think they are over reacting.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by Indydealmaker

I wonder how many Villagers on the Historic Side do not own a car? I know it has been posted on here that there are "lots" but that terminology is a bit lacking.

What's the difference? If it affects ten people in a way that they will lose their jobs or not be able to get to their doctors, at the very least, an explanation is due.

If there is some legitimate reason such as safety then I can accept that. If this is simply to spite another business, then I really resent being used as pawn in someone's little chess match.

[capecodbob]

Originally Posted by shankerman

This is typical of The Villages.
Why in the world would they block cart access to their own Urgent Care Center and lab???
Must be someone decided they weren't getting any money from letting people use that path. The GREED so prevalent with the Morse family continues to boggle my mind.

WOW!!!!
This post should get the issue resolved!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

Thank you!! The condescending remarks from those that can jump in their carts and go is really uncalled for...that and the defense of who is behind all this.

Who is behind this?

[Halibut]

As many of you have said, I don't understand why people who aren't affected by this continually post condescending (some downright snide) remarks.

Perhaps they're being rewarded because so many choose to engage them by replying?

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

What's the difference? If it affects ten people in a way that they will lose their jobs or not be able to get to their doctors, at the very least, an explanation is due.

Every Villager should be upset whether it directly effects them or not. Here is an action taken with total disregard of the people it will impact. Its a slap in the face to everyone. Just the way it was implemented is a red flag.

[BettyCrocked]

Originally Posted by Halibut

Perhaps they're being rewarded because so many choose to engage them by replying?

Yeah, I'm not too good at ignoring rudeness. I probably spend too much time having battles of wit with unarmed people.

[redwitch]

Well, have called VCDD, TV execs, TV sales office, every staff member I know. I've been told they aren't allowed to comment. Period, end of conversation. This really stinks!!! The skunk is definitely showing his stripes on this one.

Have a couple of emails out re easement laws. Will let all know if I get an answer. Maybe another class action suit will open Morse's eyes that he may own the land but he doesn't own the people or the community.

[downeaster]

Originally Posted by Steve9930

Every Villager should be upset whether it directly effects them or not. Here is an action taken with total disregard of the people it will impact. Its a slap in the face to everyone. Just the way it was implemented is a red flag.

Well said, Steve.

I think it is important to mention this action, while not directly effecting everyone, certainly indicates what can effect them in the future. For instance, there are many paths leading to non Villages property that could be closed in the same manner as the subject property.

It has been said on this forum that we do not live in a democracy in The Villages but we live in a benevolent dictatorship. This action may indicate the end of the benevolence

It does effect all of us.

[Warren Kiefer]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Who is behind this?

So many post and so much confusion!! Many post not even relative to the issue at hand. Who erected the wall should be an easy answer. I am sure the property line is defined, so is the wall on the Developers property or on the assisted care facility. Why would the "care" facility have a cart path in their plans aand actually build a cart path if they intended to erect a wall ??? Who is to gain and who is to lose??? All the stores and facilities up the WalMart way are guaranteed to gain business, The developer will tend to lose some business mainly to Cracker Barrel and Lowes. I don't see a lot of direct loss to the Developer owned businesses but more likely to those businesses within the Villages boundaries. These are most likely the businesses that are probably screaming their heads off and caused the developer to act without regard to the wishes of the residents.

[Applepie]

I live south of 466 however, I am concerned about the "wall". I have what I think might be a soluation to the problem. The 3 groups which the wall affects are- TV, especially the historic side, Harbor Chase, and Spruce Creek. Our golf cart trails are not public streets. They are owned by the developer and the residents of TV. They are not like our streets where any one may travel (we are not a gated community). Why not install a gate like at Hickory Head Hammock. The gate could only be triggered by our gate cards. There would be no button to push. ONLY villages residents would have the card. This would keep the people from Harbor Chase and Spruce Creek out. I know people will say I am being snobby by not letting Spruce Creekers in, However they do not pay for the upkeep of the trails, we do. Our trails are getting crowded as TV gets bigger. Maybe it's time to limit access to other communities. The people from the outside are still welcome to dine and shop only they must use public roads not our private golf card trails.

[gocubsgo]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Well, have called VCDD, TV execs, TV sales office, every staff member I know. I've been told they aren't allowed to comment. Period, end of conversation. This really stinks!!! The skunk is definitely showing his stripes on this one.

Have a couple of emails out re easement laws. Will let all know if I get an answer. Maybe another class action suit will open Morse's eyes that he may own the land but he doesn't own the people or the community.

I wrote to the TV stations last night. That seemed to do some good. All we can hope for is the negative publicity and maybe a surrender?

Anyone working for TVillages can't comment for fear of losing their jobs. How sad...

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by redwitch

Well, have called VCDD, TV execs, TV sales office, every staff member I know. I've been told they aren't allowed to comment. Period, end of conversation. This really stinks!!! The skunk is definitely showing his stripes on this one.

Have a couple of emails out re easement laws. Will let all know if I get an answer. Maybe another class action suit will open Morse's eyes that he may own the land but he doesn't own the people or the community.

Did the VCDD, TV execs, TV sales office, and other staff members tell you who told them they aren't allowed to comment?

Why did Gary and/or Mark Morse wake up one day and say 'you know those people over there just have it too nice. What more can we do to those people'? We've closed the Silver Lake restaurant, we've closed the OBCC restaurant and tiki bar, we've closed the church on the square (where many of these people have worshiped for years).

There is just no logical explanation for this action...only silence. Harold Schwartz would roll over in his grave if he knew how many of his old friends are being treated.

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by Applepie

I live south of 466 however, I am concerned about the "wall". I have what I think might be a soluation to the problem. The 3 groups which the wall affects are- TV, especially the historic side, Harbor Chase, and Spruce Creek. Our golf cart trails are not public streets. They are owned by the developer and the residents of TV. They are not like our streets where any one may travel (we are not a gated community). Why not install a gate like at Hickory Head Hammock. The gate could only be triggered by our gate cards. There would be no button to push. ONLY villages residents would have the card. This would keep the people from Harbor Chase and Spruce Creek out. I know people will say I am being snobby by not letting Spruce Creekers in, However they do not pay for the upkeep of the trails, we do. Our trails are getting crowded as TV gets bigger. Maybe it's time to limit access to other communities. The people from the outside are still welcome to dine and shop only they must use public roads not our private golf card trails.

I think the point was more to keep Villagers in not outsiders out.

[Serenoa]

Originally Posted by gocubsgo

I wrote to the TV stations last night. That seemed to do some good. All we can hope for is the negative publicity and maybe a surrender?

Anyone working for TVillages can't comment for fear of losing their jobs. How sad...

What? No Villages "deep throat"?

Seems like SOMEONE would be willing to speak...... off the record.


please note: not making light of the situation at all. sincerely hope it gets resolved to everyone's satisfaction.