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It's even more ironic when you realize that I have a street legal golf cart and don't use that cart path. When I need to access the public facilities on the west side of 441, I cross over at Buenos Aires Blvd. across from Lowes.
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I could be wrong ( I was, possibly a couple of times), but as I read today's Daily Sun article, the key component of the proposed solution is deeding the lot inside the wall to the VCDD, thereby rendering the access to a public road theory moot. Now, they can restrict access as they see fit.
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The cart path under discussion has been paved and fully-maintained (with landscaping and lights) for over a decade and has been safely used by many people on a regular basis.
I was referring to where that paved path leads to. Several have said it moves through parking lots and other "workarounds" through grass. Even the Channel 9 report discussed this.
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Thats not true. My folks have lived here 20 years, and that path has never been closed. Ive been told that a meeting is planned at the lady lake town hall, by the post office monday night at 6.
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It leads to a road. On that road are Drs offices and medical centers. Beyond that it leads to another road...then a patch of dirt..well traveled. Then another road.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:26 AM
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Thats not true. My folks have lived here 20 years, and that path has never been closed. Ive been told that a meeting is planned at the lady lake town hall, by the post office monday night at 6.
WHY?

Why don't you just wait and see?

Good grief. I can see why there have been so many wars.

Keep calm and carry on.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:29 AM
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I think that the concern is that residents of Stonecrest are coming over here and going to the Town Squares which are often very crowded. There has also been some talk that some of them have snuck onto the executive golf courses after hours and may use the pools and rec centers. I've been to pools and rec centers on several occasions where no one has asked for my ID. In fact some of the pools only have a staff member check every hour or so and even then, unless they see something very suspicious they don't go around and check IDs. Those are certainly not public facilities.
I don't know about the cart paths or multi modal paths in the Villages. Are they considered public facilities or are they paid for with our amenity fees?
Isn't the cart path at the end of the bridge through the dog park an amenity support path?
If the lot is deeded to the VHA does it not become an amenities supported path?
Isn't it the duty of the VHA to see to the needs of Villages residents? Why should they be concerned about people from outside the Villages?
As far as making it an extension of Paradise Dr., I believe that would require that cars be allowed to pass through. If the town or county owned it, what would prevent them from selling it as a house lot?
I understand the concern, but really they have a beautiful pool in Stonecrest already. Would you really want to drive that distance to go into our pools when you have one so close to home? They have their own clubhouse and golf course as well. We have even golfed over there and it was very nice.

Granted they may come to the town squares to shop or listen to the music but so can many others as they are public and anyone can drive there. Heck, before we bought our house we spent 4 years coming on vacation and did the same. We rented a cart and used the paths and stayed at the hotels. I don't think we were awful, but were checking to see if we wanted to move here. We looked at Stonecrest as well. In the end, we chose the villages because we had MANY golf courses to choose from, and Stonecrest only had one.

I guess I am saying there are many outsiders using "The Villages" in one way or another. You never know, one of those outsiders may become your neighbor someday!
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I could be wrong ( I was, possibly a couple of times), but as I read today's Daily Sun article, the key component of the proposed solution is deeding the lot inside the wall to the VCDD, thereby rendering the access to a public road theory moot. Now, they can restrict access as they see fit.
Aha... that makes perfect sense.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:35 AM
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I could be wrong ( I was, possibly a couple of times), but as I read today's Daily Sun article, the key component of the proposed solution is deeding the lot inside the wall to the VCDD, thereby rendering the access to a public road theory moot. Now, they can restrict access as they see fit.
That would make a lot of sense.
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There are trailers for sale on Craig's List along SR44 that are advertising that they are golf-cart accessible to Paddock Square.
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I understand the concern, but really they have a beautiful pool in Stonecrest already. Would you really want to drive that distance to go into our pools when you have one so close to home? They have their own clubhouse and golf course as well. We have even golfed over there and it was very nice.

Granted they may come to the town squares to shop or listen to the music but so can many others as they are public and anyone can drive there. Heck, before we bought our house we spent 4 years coming on vacation and did the same. We rented a cart and used the paths and stayed at the hotels. I don't think we were awful, but were checking to see if we wanted to move here. We looked at Stonecrest as well. In the end, we chose the villages because we had MANY golf courses to choose from, and Stonecrest only had one.

I guess I am saying there are many outsiders using "The Villages" in one way or another. You never know, one of those outsiders may become your neighbor someday!
I'm not familiar with all of the facilities at Stonecrest nor the fees associated with them or restrictions on them. If have fee for play golf, then it might be attractive to them to slip over here after 7pm and get in some free golf. Is it possible that they have to pay an additional fee to use their pool. If so maybe they have figured out that they can use ours for free. We also have a hot tub at the South Side Pool and perhaps people are using that.

At any rate, this is all speculation and we don't know what the whole story is and may never know. I'm more concerned that the path is going to be open again.
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I could be wrong ( I was, possibly a couple of times), but as I read today's Daily Sun article, the key component of the proposed solution is deeding the lot inside the wall to the VCDD, thereby rendering the access to a public road theory moot. Now, they can restrict access as they see fit.
The VCCDD is a municipal district. It cannot grant selective access to/from an adjacent public road.
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I could be wrong ( I was, possibly a couple of times), but as I read today's Daily Sun article, the key component of the proposed solution is deeding the lot inside the wall to the VCDD, thereby rendering the access to a public road theory moot. Now, they can restrict access as they see fit.
Here is a suggestion. For some reason there seems to be a perception that there are large numbers of non residents using the Village Golf Cart Paths. I smell an opportunity to make some money. Sell access stickers for say $200 per year to allow non residents to use the Golf Cart Paths. This way you could require they present proof of insurance and inspect the cart for safety. Then they would be contributing to the cost of the paths.
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This from the VHA president's statement.

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the developer had a liability concern with all these golf carts passing back and forth across private property.
I'm guessing that either something happened or they got a new lawyer who decided that this was a liability issue. Perhaps an annual review by his insurance company made him aware of this potential problem.

By giving the property to the VHA it exempts the developer from any potential law suits, and allows the gate to be open.

This is just speculation on my part which I generally try to stay away from.
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I'm not familiar with all of the facilities at Stonecrest nor the fees associated with them or restrictions on them. If have fee for play golf, then it might be attractive to them to slip over here after 7pm and get in some free golf. Is it possible that they have to pay an additional fee to use their pool. If so maybe they have figured out that they can use ours for free. We also have a hot tub at the South Side Pool and perhaps people are using that.

At any rate, this is all speculation and we don't know what the whole story is and may never know. I'm more concerned that the path is going to be open again.
Still doubt the Stonecrest issue is as bad as people make it out to be, but agree that the primary concern here is to get the path open again. They should have never made the change to begin with, especially in the manner which it was done.
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