[ttown]

I am not worried about hordes of marauding old people from Stonecrest or Spruce Creek. I am worried about a unilateral decision that effected many many people , with no explanation . Nor the courtesy to tell us the reasoning behind it.

[PennBF]

OK, here you have a Developer who puts together a terrific community at their risk and work and then builds Assisted Living for the members/residents of the community. Another person(s) see a profit in using the Developers risks and builds an assisted living facility and advertises it can use the advantages built and risked by the original Village Developer. Does anyone think that is fair. Remember the owner of the "Off Site" assisted living is in it for a profit it is not a charitable endeavor. So they would be riding off the back of the Developer. Then everyone gets upset when the Developer draws a line in the sand and wants some controls over the usage of his work. Of course if the Developer does not put a "Badge Controlled Gate" up for the Village residents then all bets off.!!! In addition the "Off Site Assisted Living" is in competition with the Developer and they are using his work to set up their business. Remember, it is a business. Have you priced the cost of entering one of these Assisted Livings. You will quickly learn that it is a business and not a "Religion".
(As aside: I see some use the terms "Drinking the Cool Aid" I am not sure if they know that is a direct reference to the many people who died at Johnstown and terribly disrespectable to those who had relatives or friends there and were poisoned. Although I don't personally know of anyone I still think it is appropriate to respect those that were poisoned and their relatives, etc.)

[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by Village Airport Van

Read what district administrator Janet Tutt has to say on this topic:

Janet Tutt blames social media for 'Berlin Wall' controversy - **************

Social media is the problem not the wall. It was done for security reasons. Lock the back door and make the bad guys come in the front. Thank you Janet Tutt for your honest explanation.

District administrator Janet Tutt this morning blamed social media for the controversy which has erupted around the �Berlin Wall� erected over the weekend on The Villages� Historic Side.

She said social media has spread misinformation about why the wall was erected.

She said the wall was erected due to �a situation with liability on property and security.� SNIP

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by Village Airport Van

Read what district administrator Janet Tutt has to say on this topic:

Janet Tutt blames social media for 'Berlin Wall' controversy - **************

The comment section does make me think that perhaps all of the people exhorting the fact that Mr. Schwartz would never run things the way his son and heirs are currently, should consider the fact the HE brought his son Gary Morse into his development project because he was having problems making the whole thing fly. Mr. Schwartz was very happy, I'm sure, to enjoy the business acumen his brilliant son, Gary Morse, possessed. Mr. Schwartz could afford to be affable and social, the successful business yoke was on his son's neck. (BTW, I understand Gary Morse is also extremely affable but I've never met him.)

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

Does anyone else find this hysterical?

Ignorance takes many forms.

[PennBF]

Does anyone actually believe the Developer looked to Ms. Tutt and the VHA for a solution to the wall. Trying to foist this on the residents is actually an insult. Having said this "The Developer" has brought out a good solution and if it happens then he deserves full credit for a solution that would help the residents while at the same time protecting his competitive position.

[Peachie]

Originally Posted by EdV

That path is the only way to get to/from the state DOT approved bridge that crosses 441, a state highway. The state would have never approved the bridge unless that path was also made public.

Can we stop quibbling over patches of cart paths now?

EdV, did the state grant an easement over the highway for the bridge or did the state build the bridge for the public? I don't know where to find that information.

I don't think it's fair to state that we're quibbling over patches of cart paths. The Villages is designed with patches of cart paths all over and that doesn't make them any less private.

[justjim]

Wow! Wow! So according to Janet Tutt, Social Media caused this problem. How about just a "little bit" of transparency before you affect the lives of the elderly of "your" kingdom?

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by justjim

Wow! Wow! So according to Janet Tutt, Social Media caused this problem. How about just a "little bit" of transparency before you affect the lives of the elderly of "your" kingdom?

I so agree!!! How can she blame social media when social media requested an explanation repeatedly and got nothing but silence?

There is nothing wrong with speculation on a social forum. If she didn't like it, she should have come clean with the reason.

Her statement is appalling and insulting.

[graciegirl]

Whoa....appalling and insulting. She has a job to do and probably wants to keep it. I know I want her to keep it.

CFrance. You know that I always agree with you, but it was a matter of three or four days until something happened as an attempt to resolve this dumb thing that they did.

We are all old enough to know that when a problem surfaces in any organization; business, church, charity,social club that meetings transpire and things are debated (argued).

Solutions are sometimes fair and transparent but most times cloudy and face saving. We can see that even in the way this country is run.

We need to keep calm and carry on. See if this doesn't work out and if it doesn't then we can go right back to the sturm und drang.

That is what I think. What do I know. I love you to pieces CFrance. You are probably right again.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by CFrance

I so agree!!! How can she blame social media when social media requested an explanation repeatedly and got nothing but silence?

There is nothing wrong with speculation on a social forum. If she didn't like it, she should have come clean with the reason.

Her statement is appalling and insulting.

That's called doing a little side step. Its in the new play book for dealing with the rabble rousing public.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Peachie

The comment section does make me think that perhaps all of the people exhorting the fact that Mr. Schwartz would never run things the way his son and heirs are currently, should consider the fact the HE brought his son Gary Morse into his development project because he was having problems making the whole thing fly. Mr. Schwartz was very happy, I'm sure, to enjoy the business acumen his brilliant son, Gary Morse, possessed. Mr. Schwartz could afford to be affable and social, the successful business yoke was on his son's neck. (BTW, I understand Gary Morse is also extremely affable but I've never met him.)

As this board becomes overwhelmed with anti Village, anti Morse family, anti developer folks, keep in mind that when Harold started this place, and when he died, it was a pittance compared to the present time.

This is not an easy place to "run"...it is extremely complicated an while some may think they have all the answers, I wonder because they do not even have all the facts to come to an answer.

Expressing concern, questioning why is all fine but the sarcastic comments about this man, his family, the paper is not only uncalled for, but step back....it is lacking in any credence.

Express your questions, but being sarcastic about the "kingdom" as someone termed it is just not productive to anything.

I have been here for a bit, and questioned a number of things, but sometimes as I pursued my question, I found out that maybe, just maybe, the developer or the folks in charge had mucho more information than I to make their decision and to my knowledge make decisions in the best interest of The Villages...perhaps not what I want and perhaps not always what he or the family wants, but based on law, facts, etc....never knew them to hurt or do anything that would hurt the residents just to hurt them.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Bucco

As this board becomes overwhelmed with anti Village, anti Morse family, anti developer folks, keep in mind that when Harold started this place, and when he died, it was a pittance compared to the present time.

This is not an easy place to "run"...it is extremely complicated an while some may think they have all the answers, I wonder because they do not even have all the facts to come to an answer.

Expressing concern, questioning why is all fine but the sarcastic comments about this man, his family, the paper is not only uncalled for, but step back....it is lacking in any credence.

Express your questions, but being sarcastic about the "kingdom" as someone termed it is just not productive to anything.

I have been here for a bit, and questioned a number of things, but sometimes as I pursued my question, I found out that maybe, just maybe, the developer or the folks in charge had mucho more information than I to make their decision and to my knowledge make decisions in the best interest of The Villages...perhaps not what I want and perhaps not always what he or the family wants, but based on law, facts, etc....never knew them to hurt or do anything that would hurt the residents just to hurt them.

Good common sense post. Thank you.

[Steve9930]

Originally Posted by Bucco

As this board becomes overwhelmed with anti Village, anti Morse family, anti developer folks, keep in mind that when Harold started this place, and when he died, it was a pittance compared to the present time.

This is not an easy place to "run"...it is extremely complicated an while some may think they have all the answers, I wonder because they do not even have all the facts to come to an answer.

Expressing concern, questioning why is all fine but the sarcastic comments about this man, his family, the paper is not only uncalled for, but step back....it is lacking in any credence.

Express your questions, but being sarcastic about the "kingdom" as someone termed it is just not productive to anything.

I have been here for a bit, and questioned a number of things, but sometimes as I pursued my question, I found out that maybe, just maybe, the developer or the folks in charge had mucho more information than I to make their decision and to my knowledge make decisions in the best interest of The Villages...perhaps not what I want and perhaps not always what he or the family wants, but based on law, facts, etc....never knew them to hurt or do anything that would hurt the residents just to hurt them.

In many ways I agree with you but this action was done as if they lived in a vacuum. It had to be known that people would be inconvenienced and in some cases devastated by the unannounced and quick implementation. They deserve an explanation. When you fail to communicate an action as this human frustration can take on a very ugly face. It all about communication and I would have thought that the people in charge were more intelligent then what happened here. I don't condone some of the comments but I understand where they come.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Whoa....appalling and insulting. She has a job to do and probably wants to keep it. I know I want her to keep it.

CFrance. You know that I always agree with you, but it was a matter of three or four days until something happened as an attempt to resolve this dumb thing that they did.

We are all old enough to know that when a problem surfaces in any organization; business, church, charity,social club that meetings transpire and things are debated (argued).

Solutions are sometimes fair and transparent but most times cloudy and face saving. We can see that even in the way this country is run.

We need to keep calm and carry on. See if this doesn't work out and if it doesn't then we can go right back to the sturm und drang.

That is what I think. What do I know. I love you to pieces CFrance. You are probably right again.

Okay, Gracie. I hear ya. But still... a little bit of transparency and better PR work would have gone a long way. And then to have someone turn around and blame "social media" (I'm assuming she's referring to TOTV) is maddening. Like it's our fault for speculating after they refused to answer any questions from the many who called to ask why.

They need to beef up their PR department!