[Gray lady of the sea]

Thank you ! I’m with you - enough is enough !!!

[camaguey48]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Let's hope maybe the CDC corrects the numbers?

The data coming out of Isreal is that the Vax protects against severe disease and hospitalization at high levels still, clearly due to a T-cell response. Against infection and symptoms it's much less effective and it seems to be a function of time. I.E. Those who got the Vax in January are much more likely to have a breakthrough case and the odds of not getting it improve the more recent you got Vaxx. Clearly this is the result of circulating antibodies fading over time. Breakthrough however is something like 60%, rather than the original 10% for the earliest Vaxxed.

The great news is the mortality is way down.

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/report...week-27-EN.pdf

So is the morality.

[Rsener]

Originally Posted by camaguey48

Keep telling yourselves the vaccine is safe. You'll be too late.

You really need help

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Guitarman1951

My brother, who is fully vaccinated, got the Delta variant and ended up in the hospital with severe dehydration. He is back out now but it was a tough go in what he described like a severe flu but even worse. The Dr did say his vaccination saved his life by not letting it get into his lungs. He is still struggling to get back to normal but getting there. So yes, you can get the Delta variant even if vaccinated but it's full effect will be limited. This further demonstrates the need for masks once again and, perhaps, some penalties to unvaccinated people to entice them to get vaccinated. They are spreading it and threatening everyone.

you want to set a penalty against people who don’t want to get vaccinated……wow you are funny
Smdh

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell

Fact: The P C R test is not effective. It cannot decipher flu from the China virus.

Fact: The vaccine does not work.

Fact: leave your dying wishes on your frig for your family

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by Rsener

You really need help

No peeps who believe an non approved shot is safe need help

Originally Posted by merrymini

Since the cdc and government are a pack of liars and the information is so contradictory, how can anyone put any faith in anything they say? Line up for your 10th booster please!

True. The government says the border is under control and Fauci says he’s not been to the border where thousands of illegal immigrants from Covid infected countries not wearing masks, unvaccinated and not social distancing stream daily across the border and are seeded across this country by the government. The media itself has abandoned truth in journalism.

[billethkid]

Progress on this subject is akin to going on a trip on a merry go round.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The CDC is not in charge of this country and certainly not in charge of my life. There will be no mask ever for me and hopefully other Americans that are tired of government trying to control us.

Your bologna rhetoric will end soon. (Most will be able to read between these lines)

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

No peeps who believe an non approved shot is safe need help

People need to understand the difference between "FDA approved", Emergency Use Authorization", "Off label use" and "experimental". I'll let all the "Dr. Googles" out there look it up and educate themselves.

But I'll give them a hint: The final FDA "approval" consists of about 10% more research/studies and 90% bureaucratic paperwork.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

The CDC is not in charge of this country and certainly not in charge of my life. There will be no mask ever for me and hopefully other Americans that are tired of government trying to control us.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

[glennerv]

Good for you.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Malsua

Let's hope maybe the CDC corrects the numbers?

The data coming out of Isreal is that the Vax protects against severe disease and hospitalization at high levels still, clearly due to a T-cell response. Against infection and symptoms it's much less effective and it seems to be a function of time. I.E. Those who got the Vax in January are much more likely to have a breakthrough case and the odds of not getting it improve the more recent you got Vaxx. Clearly this is the result of circulating antibodies fading over time. Breakthrough however is something like 60%, rather than the original 10% for the earliest Vaxxed.

The great news is the mortality is way down.

https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/report...week-27-EN.pdf

So I guess a booster is coming soon....ok, bring it on! Let's flush this toilet.

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by merrymini

Since the cdc and government are a pack of liars and the information is so contradictory, how can anyone put any faith in anything they say? Line up for your 10th booster please!

Merrimini...you can get at the end of the booster line if you want...I want to live...I will gladly go to the front.

[gdennis317]

Originally Posted by camaguey48

Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Townhall Tipsheet Rebecca Downs
Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Rebecca DownsRebecca Downs|Posted: Jul 28, 2021 9:30 PM

Dan Crenshaw Tweets Stunning Revelation on New CDC Mask Guidelines
Source: AP Photo/Susan Walsh


On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) announced a new mask guideline for students, teachers, and staff in K-12 to wear masks regardless of vaccination status, as well as in certain indoor settings, again, also regardless of vaccination status. The move was met with swift criticism, especially and including from former President Donald Trump. Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX), though, takes issue with the data used to justify the new guidelines.




The excerpt Rep. Crenshaw references comes from Andrew Joseph's article published by STAT, "CDC Again Recommends Indoor Masking, Even for Some Vaccinated People."

The excerpt in question reads:

An administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told STAT that health experts do not have studies proving that fully vaccinated people are transmitting the virus. Rather, the official said, the updated guidance is based on studies showing that vaccinated people who contract the Delta variant have similarly high levels of virus in their airways, which suggested that they may be infectious to others. With other variants, vaccinated people had substantially lower levels of virus in their noses and throats compared to unvaccinated people.
Remember when * said that if vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask?

Neither one of which has any background in Science or Medicine and One is a Chronic Liar and Grifter who took the Vaccine before most of us could get it.

170,000,000 people have had the Vaccine in the last 6-8 months.
One in 25000 has had a breakthrough Covid Case and one in 100,000 have died. I like those odds over what yours are without the Vaccine.