[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

Correct, and how many empty parking spots exist now due to the closing of Kattie Belle. We went to Spanish Springs to give Farm Fresh a try the other evening and had we known it was so empty we could have parked right on the square, the parking lots had very few cars.

So you're basing your entire opinion and placing your bets on a singular event?

We were at Spanish Springs town square for dinner when Cold Blue Stone was playing in the square, there was also an event of some kind at the Sharon Morse theatre. Even the lot between the golf cart bridge and Ay Jalisco had several rows of cars where usually there might be just a handful or two.

Many people don't WANT to park on the street, because getting in and out of spaces when it's busy is difficult. Some days, the streets are closed to vehicular traffic, pedestrians only.

Residential tenants don't only need to be there at night when no one is around. They should have assigned parking spaces. But unless there's someone available to ENFORCE that, it won't happen, and someone who pays for the privilege of living AT the square, will have to not park anywhere near their own place of residence, because someone who's "only there for an hour" has chosen their spot to park in before the resident came home from whatever he was doing.

You need assigned parking spaces and someone to enforce that. You need a way to SAFELY secure overnight parking for golf carts that are very easily rolled onto a flatbed when everyone's asleep and all the businesses are closed for the night.

And so - the idea is - a garage, at least for golf carts/bikes/segways/ultra-compacts like Smart Cars.

Either that or somehow build a barrier between the spaces closest to the apartments and the rest of the parking lot, accessible only by building-specific gate key or window tag.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by dwhite5773

Apartments, what’s the problem? There or would you like more at the former HH site? I see no problem. Keeps area viable. They ALSO pay amenities fee. Just another option for folks in TV or coming to live here. I seriously doubt is going to affect the resale of your designer home!

Agree, it’s THEIR buildings and they are already built. As far as amenities fees, bet they go to developers not the district like apartments at brownwood and HH if and when they start them.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So you're basing your entire opinion and placing your bets on a singular event?

We were at Spanish Springs town square for dinner when Cold Blue Stone was playing in the square, there was also an event of some kind at the Sharon Morse theatre. Even the lot between the golf cart bridge and Ay Jalisco had several rows of cars where usually there might be just a handful or two.

Many people don't WANT to park on the street, because getting in and out of spaces when it's busy is difficult. Some days, the streets are closed to vehicular traffic, pedestrians only.

Residential tenants don't only need to be there at night when no one is around. They should have assigned parking spaces. But unless there's someone available to ENFORCE that, it won't happen, and someone who pays for the privilege of living AT the square, will have to not park anywhere near their own place of residence, because someone who's "only there for an hour" has chosen their spot to park in before the resident came home from whatever he was doing.

You need assigned parking spaces and someone to enforce that. You need a way to SAFELY secure overnight parking for golf carts that are very easily rolled onto a flatbed when everyone's asleep and all the businesses are closed for the night.

And so - the idea is - a garage, at least for golf carts/bikes/segways/ultra-compacts like Smart Cars.

Either that or somehow build a barrier between the spaces closest to the apartments and the rest of the parking lot, accessible only by building-specific gate key or window tag.

I’m sure they thought it out, their reserved parking will probably be behind the building, or they might build them parking garage’s?

[LiverpoolWalrus]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

That's really my one and only objection; that tenants should have their own parking garage. Maybe just a singular building with assigned stalls for golf carts, motorcycles, bicycles, or Smart Cars. Normal cars can park in the lot near the garage, but anything that can easily be stolen gets one garage space per apartment unit.

OBB, so that’s really your only objection? You don’t see how apartments could spell the demise of live music in the square closest to our ‘hood?

You of all people are a keen observer of the “human nature” and business acumen I described elsewhere on this thread.

You don’t see this as a domino effect contemplated by the developer for some time, culminating in the eventual splintering of The Villages? Think of it as this week’s essay question!

Perhaps I’m way off base, but I gotta say the dots are connecting conspicuously. Just a coincidence?

I value your input, especially as a fellow denizen of the historic district.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

I came here for the Hookers and Blow... So far, I'm disappointed...

Well, BJs will be available here soon on 441. You'll get half your wish.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Well, BJs will be available here soon on 441. You'll get half your wish.

[stanley]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So you're basing your entire opinion and placing your bets on a singular event?

We were at Spanish Springs town square for dinner when Cold Blue Stone was playing in the square, there was also an event of some kind at the Sharon Morse theatre. Even the lot between the golf cart bridge and Ay Jalisco had several rows of cars where usually there might be just a handful or two.

Many people don't WANT to park on the street, because getting in and out of spaces when it's busy is difficult. Some days, the streets are closed to vehicular traffic, pedestrians only.

Residential tenants don't only need to be there at night when no one is around. They should have assigned parking spaces. But unless there's someone available to ENFORCE that, it won't happen, and someone who pays for the privilege of living AT the square, will have to not park anywhere near their own place of residence, because someone who's "only there for an hour" has chosen their spot to park in before the resident came home from whatever he was doing.

You need assigned parking spaces and someone to enforce that. You need a way to SAFELY secure overnight parking for golf carts that are very easily rolled onto a flatbed when everyone's asleep and all the businesses are closed for the night.

And so - the idea is - a garage, at least for golf carts/bikes/segways/ultra-compacts like Smart Cars.

Either that or somehow build a barrier between the spaces closest to the apartments and the rest of the parking lot, accessible only by building-specific gate key or window tag.

Do you really think they don't have a plan? Do you think they haven't thought this through?

[bagboy]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Well, BJs will be available here soon on 441. You'll get half your wish.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

Well, BJs will be available here soon on 441. You'll get half your wish.

Rumor has it that it will be a full service store

[asianthree]

Has the developers ever done anything half-as***ed. No, so the apartments that will be 2nd floor over the business have been in the works for a long time. I’m sure parking is already in the plans, and tenants will be taken care of very well. Those who live in the lofts, with less than 30 garages, no carports, and long term facilities (some have carports) in TV, leave their carts unattended in parking lots, so far no crime wave.
As for the worry of music, has anyone realized that there will be active businesses directly beneath the apartments. The developers are not going to shut down those businesses to have quiet time, and the square will continue with music, cause it brings in people, so the bars can continue, and businesses can pay their rent.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

So you're basing your entire opinion and placing your bets on a singular event?

We were at Spanish Springs town square for dinner when Cold Blue Stone was playing in the square, there was also an event of some kind at the Sharon Morse theatre. Even the lot between the golf cart bridge and Ay Jalisco had several rows of cars where usually there might be just a handful or two.

Many people don't WANT to park on the street, because getting in and out of spaces when it's busy is difficult. Some days, the streets are closed to vehicular traffic, pedestrians only.

Residential tenants don't only need to be there at night when no one is around. They should have assigned parking spaces. But unless there's someone available to ENFORCE that, it won't happen, and someone who pays for the privilege of living AT the square, will have to not park anywhere near their own place of residence, because someone who's "only there for an hour" has chosen their spot to park in before the resident came home from whatever he was doing.

You need assigned parking spaces and someone to enforce that. You need a way to SAFELY secure overnight parking for golf carts that are very easily rolled onto a flatbed when everyone's asleep and all the businesses are closed for the night.

And so - the idea is - a garage, at least for golf carts/bikes/segways/ultra-compacts like Smart Cars.

Either that or somehow build a barrier between the spaces closest to the apartments and the rest of the parking lot, accessible only by building-specific gate key or window tag.

That is why God created walls and fencing. Have you been to The Lofts?

[rustyp]

I really don't care either way of the outcome of this particular situation. However a message to town officials - if the richest guy on the block ultimately gets variance to a zoning law why have zoning codes. I'm guilty of not researching this but has there been a time when "The Developer" requested 1 a variance 2 been turn down 3 (this is the operative part) appealed the decision and not been grated the variance ? A simple question- no accusations implied.

[petiteone]

Originally Posted by Bonnybelle

Thanks for the great info - I just sent emails to all commissioners and copied your post and posted on Nextdoor.com

We need to start taking charge of our Hometown! It seems a lot of the newer residents are not aware and/or do not care...used to love this place until they tore down Katie Belles and Hacienda County club -and built South of 44 without providing the necessary facilites and golf courses...so crowded now that Mr. Schwartz would be so upset that his grandchildren are so disgracefully greedy and have spoiled our Hometown!

I would also like to know why we can't recycle - what a tremendous waste of all the plastic and glass bottles AND soda, food etc cans - wish we could find a place to take them. I heard they are saving The Villages $1million a year by using the new garbage company - really? -- would not be surprised if the "billionaire developers" had an interest in the new garbage company - I can only imagine the mountains of plastic bottles going up in smoke in one week. I'm not normally an environmentalist but this is CRAZY

I have lived in the Villages since 2010. We used to have recycling with the old waste provider. I am a snow bird and have the same waste company (that services many states) in New York as we now have in The Villages and they handle our recycling up there. The Villages probably didn't want to pay for the recycling option.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by petiteone

I have lived in the Villages since 2010. We used to have recycling with the old waste provider. I am a snow bird and have the same waste company (that services many states) in New York as we now have in The Villages and they handle our recycling up there. The Villages probably didn't want to pay for the recycling option.

What part of our trash collection does The Villages pay for?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Rumor has it that it will be a full service store

Awww, that's nice... Who doesn't love a Happy Ending?