[cab7608]

At first glance, It seems reasonable to have the "powers that be" revisit this situation and consider a second type of guest pass that would require the resident to be with the guest who doesn't meet the current guest criteria. This would enable the resident to bring a date to any activities requiring an ID. However, what also needs to be understood is that since it would be impossible to know if the guest is a date or a friend, this guest ID could easily be used to bring anyone outside The Villages to our resident only activities thus adding to an already overcrowded situation. We already have issues with communities outside The Villages marketing their homes as having access to The Villages without the bonds or amenity fees. Perhaps a special event pass is the answer for dances and other functions where it would be nice to bring a date.


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[Nightengale212]

Originally Posted by PammyJ

Don't change your retirement plans! You do NOT have to be on the deed to get a resident ID! As long as they prove they are living with you, they get an ID. It is blue, not green. There are four of us living in our home and we all have ID's that allow us amenities. I think Joe is talking about not being able to get a guest pass for those living in close proximity of The Villages.

Thank you PammyJ and Mulligan for clarifying this issue for me and others who may be in similar relationship situations.

[vj1213]

I never really thought about this problem, but I do understand the frustration of singles. Of course I don't know the perfect solution and even if I did I don't think my opinion would really matter to the higher powers. But it looks like there could be a system whereas the singles id could be flagged, whether a different color or a star and that way if they took a date or companion with them to an event they would be allowed to enter. This way the guest could experience the activities but only when accompanied by the resident

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

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A chair has four legs. A horse has four legs. Does that mean a chair is the same as a horse?

Of course not! It just means that both that horse and that chair require the same kind of support.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by iaasah

Are the amenity fees based on household plus number of occupants?

No. Amenity per house.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by vj1213

I never really thought about this problem, but I do understand the frustration of singles. Of course I don't know the perfect solution and even if I did I don't think my opinion would really matter to the higher powers. But it looks like there could be a system whereas the singles id could be flagged, whether a different color or a star and that way if they took a date or companion with them to an event they would be allowed to enter. This way the guest could experience the activities but only when accompanied by the resident

This may be the solution.

BTW, Does anyone know how many people can have resident IDs based upon them residing in a single home - 2, 4, 6, 8? Is the system being abused in this manner?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by villagerjack

Yes it is not " fair" for me to pay amenity fees for the 9 months I am not in The Villages. These fees should be picked up by residents like Joe who use the facilities at my expense while I am not in The Villages. NOT "FAIR"

Guess you knew that up front, right?

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Wandatime

Where are you meeting these women that live just outside the walls of TV?

Please know I am trying to inject some humor here.

I believe Mr. Midnight could answer this question!

Internet dating sites seem to be a useful venue in this regard..

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

Being a single person, I have only one complaint about TV.

You only get one resident I.D. and married couples get two. I know the rules that it goes by the names on the deed, etc. I still think this is unfair.

If a single person meets someone outside of TV and who wants to take their date to a resident function where they need to produce a resident I.D. and or gets into a relationship, the other person does not have access as the resident does, because the single person has one resident I.D.

I know people will respond that "it is what it is", but the singles get screwed. IMHO

It indicates one needs to live with a person, if they want to enjoy their company in TV environment. It seems to be a little far fetch option, as opposed to, getting two resident I.D's. Would it kill everything about TV, if single people got an second or resident/guest I.D? How many extra I.D's. would need to be distributed?

I know it's the developer ballpark and he/she can take his/her bat and ball home, if someone states a different point of view. It seems like a form of discrimination, against the single populace.

This has been discussed before but would like to see if there are any options, to changing this scenario.

Just waiting for the married people to say BOO-HOO!!!

Now that you have all the options, what next?

[gratefulparrot]

Hey Joe.

Thanks for bringing this up. I will be moving to TV next year as a single. Of course, just coming off of a 23yr marriage, I'm not looking for another at this time, but it's good to know the rules, just in case. I didn't realize I wouldn't be able to bring a date to TV events and I really don't see the big deal. How would people know? But I guess I wouldn't want someone who I'm dating to have free access to all the amenities. That would almost lead someone to date me for free pool access. But again, I don't think that's where you were headed in your posts.

[njbchbum]

It is admirable that so many posters here suggest a permanent guest ID for residents of our tri-county area. And the idea that it could only be used when accompanied by a resident is most anticipatory. So I must ask the posters if you recall the number of whines and complaints on TOTV about how passes are NOT checked at pools and other facilities! What makes anyone believe that 1] the guest pass will be checked for either party and that the guest pass will not be loaned to another resident for their additional use or that the 'guest' might not try to use the pass when NOT accompanied by the sponsoring resdent? Imagine the finger-pointing then!!!!

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea that any rec ctr should be able to issue a special admit guest pass that specified the event, date, name of guest and name of resident. A simple piece of cardboard stock pre-printed like villagers 'contact cards' would suffice so that the info could be hand-written on it. And the rec centers should then turn in monthly counts of such passes issued so that IF found to be potential - more serious thought could be given to the issuance and control of a more permanent special guest pass. The biggest fraud I see there is single residents falsely pumping up their requests for special admit permits!

Have we assumed anywhere in this thread that Villages staff would be required to only issue this special tri-county pass to single deed owners of record? Would that then pizz off married residents who want to be able to get their local BFFs passes because they are not residents? I would imagine that the Villages has their share of marrieds who do not share the same interests and would enjoy doing things with a friend rather than drag along an unwilling spouse or forgo the event.

We might be making this pass issue bigger than it really is but we might not be!

[mgcsooner]

I see your point, on the other hand if implemented it would have to be done in a way it is not abused, which I also think you'd have to admit would be very possible. One possible solution might be similar to the way airlines provide hubby/wifey pass privileges for a SIGNIFICANT OTHER. Their (at least one that I'm familiar with) policy allows single people to designate one such individual for a MINIMUM period of time, one year at least or until revoked. Once revoked one much wait until the following year (pretty sure) to designate a new such individual. ensuring the allowance is used judiciously and somewhat self-managed and not the date-de-jur.

As with anything, I think it is best to not just complain, but to come forth with a well thought out solution for the issue, reducing management think time and at least offering a potential starting point with which to make a go/no-go decision on. Good luck.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

How about some compassion for loneliness and feeling awkward? Some of you marrieds do not know how it feels to show up alone.

As a single person I would NOT want to have a guest ID for someone I am dating. That would open a whole can of worms and violate the spirit of residence/guest advantges.

HOWEVER, I would like to be able to have the person I am dating or even just a friend, attend occasional events at recreation centers, such as dances.
Would you married people object to singles getting a pass for their date or a friend to dances or other events where you yourself would never go alone?

How about this? (It annoys me that this has become married vs single)
So why not a rule that ANYONE can get two passes a month for a non resident who lives nearby.

Yeah...why not? VJ has the best idea!

Originally Posted by vj1213

I never really thought about this problem, but I do understand the frustration of singles. Of course I don't know the perfect solution and even if I did I don't think my opinion would really matter to the higher powers. But it looks like there could be a system whereas the singles id could be flagged, whether a different color or a star and that way if they took a date or companion with them to an event they would be allowed to enter. This way the guest could experience the activities but only when accompanied by the resident

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by mgcsooner

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As with anything, I think it is best to not just complain, but to come forth with a well thought out solution for the issue, reducing management think time and at least offering a potential starting point with which to make a go/no-go decision on. Good luck.

One of the first lessons I learned in business...when the boss told me that since he considered no suggestion to be off-the-wall or absurd, that I should go to him with answers - not questions and solutions -not problems. He never laughed at anything I suggested, but it took a while to figure out answers and solutions that we could actually propose and implement!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by njbchbum

One of the first lessons I learned in business...when the boss told me that since he considered no suggestion to be off-the-wall or absurd, that I should go to him with answers - not questions and solutions -not problems. He never laughed at anything I suggested, but it took a while to figure out answers and solutions that we could actually propose and implement!