[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Tell you what, you go into NY City and spend the night walking the streets - I’ll do the same thing here. See who feels safer.
You pick the city in FLA, Orlando, Miami, Tampa?

There are some very nice areas of both NYC at various cities and towns in FL. There are also many very bad areas in both NYC and towns and cities in Florida. The Villages is one of the safest in Florida.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Considering a balloon pop sounds NOTHING like a firearm discharge…..

I see the Literalist Club is alive and well on TOTV.

[tjlee500]

I have a FL concealed carry license. I had to have training and went through background check with fingerprints etc. I think that is the best way to proceed. Training is essential, just like what we all go through in getting a drivers license. I want every person carrying to have basic training. It is necessary. Personally, I go to the shooting range on a regular basis and have taken additional courses. I also keep abreast of FL laws concerning firearms.

[Sandy and Ed]

Originally Posted by Byte1

It will still be the obligation of those wishing to carry, to know the laws and restrictions. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

It’s the potential victim of an inexperienced gun carrier that concerns me. Concealed carry should require some license. There are people that act spontaneously and irrationally - some with diagnosed mental conditions that should not carry. Bipolar off meds, early onset dementia, etc. Not bad people but simply not always wired right. Hard question with no easy answers

[gettingby]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I think that carrying a concealed firearm SHOULD require special licenses and training and methods to keep mental patients and recent felons from buying or carrying guns.
......I would be fine with non-concealed carry, BUT..........a big BUT.......if I were in charge of the US, I would require all guns sold to civilians to be SINGLE-SHOT (EVEN including pistols). That way there could be very few MASS MURDERS.
........Everyone knows that the US has the MOST Gun violence and the MOST guns. That is a DIRECT PROPORTION where more VIOLENCE happens because of MORE guns in society. The US bar chart of gun VIOLENCE compared to other countries is COMPLETELY "off the chart".
..........America has to wake up some time from this national NIGHTMARE caused by the ALL-POWERFUL greed and power promoted for the GUN manufacturers by the NRA.

I’m glad you’re not in office. The only mass shootings we would have is when only the bad guys have guns (I put the government in that pile too)

[Hardlyworking]

Originally Posted by gettingby

I’m glad you’re not in office. The only mass shootings we would have is when only the bad guys have guns (I put the government in that pile too)

Unfortunately, there are way too many people in office with this mindset.

[RMHisle]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

No, do I want every wacko on the street packing, hell no.
The bigger question is why do retired LEO's have to qualify every year, and CCL holders only every 7 years ?

Wackos are not allowed to own firearms.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed

It’s the potential victim of an inexperienced gun carrier that concerns me. Concealed carry should require some license. There are people that act spontaneously and irrationally - some with diagnosed mental conditions that should not carry. Bipolar off meds, early onset dementia, etc. Not bad people but simply not always wired right. Hard question with no easy answers

Good points. All too often it is what a person DOESN'T know about guns that ends up chomping them in the shorts.

Maybe an answer is not to mandate training only if and when someone buys a gun with the intent to carry, but to make gun education mandatory in schools. The odds of that happening today are probably slim and none, given the hysteria and anti-gun bias in today's culture, but back in the day that training was freely available, though in Minnesota not a required class. But the mindset at that time was different: guns were tools, and being educated as to tool use was seen as totally logical, no different in intent than learning how to use a table saw in shop class, or becoming competent with an arc welder.

Knowing about guns goes a long way toward un-demonizing (is that a word) guns.

[Softball77]

Anyone pruchasing a weapon still has to pass the federal background check. That disqualifies many purchasers.

[La lamy]

Simply answered OP, I'm a DEFINITE NO!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by La lamy

Simply answered OP, I'm a DEFINITE NO!

Indeed. However the number of persons with concealed carry permits already in The Villages is as I understand it much higher than in Florida as a whole (I could find no hard-and-fast numbers on this but this wisdom was shared by a gun safety instructor so I have no reason to doubt its veracity), constitutional carry would probably not add many guns to the number already being carried out there.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

(I could find no hard-and-fast numbers .

Less than 14,000 CCP's in Sumter.

[me4vt]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?

The Villages don’t set State Law! So the question do “We” want it coming to The Villages, isn’t a question! It’s State Law not Village Law!!!

[Malsua]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Less than 14,000 CCP's in Sumter.

That's rookie numbers. Gonna blame it on all the northeast transplants although I have had a FL carry license since 2009, long before I bought down here.

Bad guys have always carried, so if someone carrying bothers you, I hate to break it to you but it happens around you, all the time. Good guys with permits and bad guys with bad intent carry and you simply are unaware of it.

My S&W bodyguard .380 fits in my front pocket in its holster. Even in tighter blue jeans it looks like keys or something.

[me4vt]

“We The People” don’t do business with those businesses that Post this sign!!

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

The Florida legislature is even now considering "constitutional carry" (House Bill 543, Companion Senate Bill 150) for the state of Florida. Briefly stated, constitutional carry would allow any Floridian of legal age and not otherwise forbidden to own a firearm, to carry one in public without having to obtain a permit to do so. The current permitting system would remain in effect however for those who wish to access it, most probably because of reciprocity agreements between Florida and other states.

What many people don't realize is how common constitutional carry is in America. Fully half the states already allow it. Besides Florida, the states of Nebraska, South Carolina, and New Mexico are also considering going that route as well.

I confess to being of two minds on the issue. After all, it is called "Constitutional carry" for a reason. But merely OWNING a gun does not guarantee that the owner will be able to USE it in a lawful and safe manner. The current system in Florida does provide a way to assure that a permit holder has demonstrated at least a minimum knowledge of the law as well as showing he/she has basic skills in how to use a firearm in a self-defense situation.

Is this something we want to see come to The Villages?