[twoplanekid]

Aviation enthusiasts are always looking for ways to have good relations with the public and share our love of aviation. We do this with events held at airports under supervision for the safety of all involved.

I would believe an event, call it what you may, at a golf course to let people see a course in person with their wife’s or significant others would be popular and successful.

We pilots give of our time and money to teach others about flying. The same could be true of a golf cart caravan through a course once every year for the non-golfers under the supervision of knowledgeable golfers.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Aviation enthusiasts are always looking for ways to have good relations with the public and share our love of aviation. We do this with events held at airports under supervision for the safety of all involved.

I would believe an event, call it what you may, at a golf course to let people see a course in person with their wife’s or significant others would be popular and successful.

We pilots give of our time and money to teach others about flying. The same could be true of a golf cart caravan through a course once every year for the non-golfers under the supervision of knowledgeable golfers.

I have been a golfer (of sorts) for more than forty years and I haven't ever seen anything remotely like this happening. I have lived on Golf Courses for most of that time too. I think it would not have popular appeal. That is just my opinion. I have never wanted to go look at an airport, or inside a surgical suite, see the top of the Hancock Building, look at hogs give birth or visit a house of ill repute. I know they are there, and I am good with no viewing.

You might prove me wrong by doing a poll on this. I am frequently wrong. However, it doesn't keep me from debating.

[EPutnam1863]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Sounds good in theory, but the practicable application might be difficult. If done at dusk, there is a safety factor. People in a "caravan" will want to stop and look or take pictures, as a result they will pull off the cart paths. Since we are talking about non-golfers, they will have no idea where they are not permitted to drive and will inevitably drive across a green, near (or into) a bunker or drown their cart in an environmental area.

As far as closing a course for this purpose, exec tee times are generally at a premium---they don't even close them as they should for proper maintenance. I think there might be a lot of unhappy golfers if they can't get a tee time because of tourists on the course

Yes, our amenity fee goes in part to maintain these courses. I'm paying for this, and although I golf, I don't play exec courses. I'm also paying to maintain pickleball and tennis courts, even though I don't play, sports pools even though I don't swim laps, and meeting rooms for the Univ. of Southern Idaho alumni club, even though I don't belong. The fee goes to support a wide variety of activities, even though no one participates in all of them.

Best suggestion, Rick, is that I am available for golf lessons. That way you can learn to play as bad as I do

This is why while we like living in HOAs where there are rules, we won't live in one that has all those amenities because we know we will never use them.

However the fees in TV are amazingly low when compared to other amenity-loaded HOAs throughout Florida and others.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I have been a golfer (of sorts) for more than forty years and I haven't ever seen anything remotely like this happening. I have lived on Golf Courses for most of that time too. I think it would not have popular appeal. That is just my opinion. I have never wanted to go look at an airport, or inside a surgical suite, see the top of the Hancock Building, look at hogs give birth or visit a house of ill repute. I know they are there, and I am good with no viewing.

You might prove me wrong by doing a poll on this. I am frequently wrong. However, it doesn't keep me from debating.

It is my understanding that 50% of the people living in TV don’t play golf and thus probably haven’t been on the golf courses. The courses are a major part of this community. I know that my wife & I would like to see some of the courses without having to play golf. I poll might be good or just try one event. Someday I may start to swing clubs again after I master pickleball.

[Mleeja]

"None of this applies to Country Club courses, other than pay the whole fee and drive. If they have the twilight program in the summer, then the cost would be low to pay and enjoy the ride."

I have rode as a non-playing rider on a championship course. The group was only a threesome and I rode with my buddy.

[Daddymac]

I hurt my back,,, I went with people playing. NO PROBLEM

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Dan9871

Yes, many of the golf courses are beautiful just to drive around.

But Golfers have to pay an additional fee, beyond the amenity fee, to drive on the cart paths. The fee is per golfer, not per cart... so each golfer in the cart pays a fee. It's $4 per person or about $140 per year.

There is some kind of rule about a non-golfer riding along with a golfer for a round. I'm not sure what it is but a stop at one of the starter shacks would clear that up.

Even when a golfer decides for some reason he can't play anymore and wants to leave the game... driving on the trail to get off the course takes some care so you don't get clobbered by a golf ball. At each tee box you ask the group there to wait till you are out of range on your drive to the next tee box, before the tee off. It's usually not a problem but you would not have time to sightsee on your way to the next tee box.

Or read POST #8!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by blueash

In the summer each executive course is given a day of rest every couple weeks when they perhaps get maintenance but that does not take the whole day. Perhaps that, with permission, would be a day that tourists would be allowed if it could be done not interfering with the workers. Take your risk if they are adjusting the sprinklers.

The other option of course would be to take an executive tee time and show up and just drive the course without golfing. This would cost you a $4 pp if you take your cart but it would be free to walk the course. Or if you have a golfing friend, spectators are allowed at no cost.

"Executive Course Spectator Policy
As approved by The District Boards, commencing May 2015 regarding the Spectator Policy on Executive Courses.
Spectators are allowed, and must follow golf course guidelines
No Charge for residents/guests with a valid resident/guest ID card
Spectator Tags will be issued; If a spectator is caught playing, they must pay the appropriate fees and golfing privileges will be suspended for 30 days.
Spectators must be at least 10 years of age with an accompanied resident/guest
Spectator golf cars must remain on the path
One (1) spectator limit per person, with a maximum of four (4) spectators per foursome not to exceed four (4) total golf carts"

None of this applies to Country Club courses, other than pay the whole fee and drive. If they have the twilight program in the summer, then the cost would be low to pay and enjoy the ride.

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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

It is my understanding that 50% of the people living in TV don’t play golf and thus probably haven’t been on the golf courses. The courses are a major part of this community. I know that my wife & I would like to see some of the courses without having to play golf. I poll might be good or just try one event. Someday I may start to swing clubs again after I master pickleball.

I don't play pickleball or tennis, but I don't go on to those courts to look at them. I don't play softball, but I don't wander around the softball fields while games are in progress or otherwise.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

For those of us who don’t golf, is there a way to drive a golf cart around the golf courses to take a look. Everyone in TV pays amenity fees to support the maintenance of these beautiful courses. Yet, those of us who don’t or can’t golf miss the beautiful views taken in by those that do.

So, can’t there be a time when non-golfers can sneak a peek at the courses. Maybe I have missed events such as this in the past as I am only now a full time resident. Of course this should be done in such a way as to minimize the inconveniences it might create for golfers and only take place a few times in the year. One event could be a caravan of carts following leaders who know the way. Some might even want to take up golf after seeing firsthand the fields of play.

This is my suggestion that I posted on the Villages survey for others and you to think about.

My first thought was "this won't fly". However, it is a creative idea and I see no harm in giving "some version" of this idea a try at least once. Riding along with a golfer as a spectator is really a good opportunity to view our executive courses and at no cost. It's difficult to beat that option. As a matter of fact, I see this often.

Because our Championship courses are much more expansive and thus perhaps more interesting and beautiful, it might be worthwhile to pay and go along with a golfer as a spectator. Just a thought....There are many beautiful views on both TV'S executive and Championship golf courses.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by justjim

My first thought was "this won't fly". However, it is a creative idea and I see no harm in giving "some version" of this idea a try at least once. Riding along with a golfer as a spectator is really a good opportunity to view our executive courses and at no cost. It's difficult to beat that option. As a matter of fact, I see this often.

Because our Championship courses are much more expansive and thus perhaps more interesting and beautiful, it might be worthwhile to pay and go along with a golfer as a spectator. Just a thought....There are many beautiful views on both TV'S executive and Championship golf courses.

That is what I have heard and would like to take my wife to see! These golf courses are not the same as viewing a pickleball/tennis court or baseball field.

[Indy-Guy]

I suggest that if you want to see an executive course go there late in the day an hour or so before they close. You can call or drop by the starter shack and make a tee time the day of play. Borrow a bag and some clubs and just go to the greens without teeing off and putt the ball in the hole from any distance you choose. Do this nine times and you are done. You also may take a non-player to ride with you. It will cost you the same as anyone else that doesn't have a trail pass. Go out and enjoy what your amenity fees are paying for.

The championship courses are not supported by your amenity fees. They are owned and operated by the developer.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Originally Posted by justjim

My first thought was "this won't fly". However, it is a creative idea and I see no harm in giving "some version" of this idea a try at least once. Riding along with a golfer as a spectator is really a good opportunity to view our executive courses and at no cost. It's difficult to beat that option. As a matter of fact, I see this often.

Because our Championship courses are much more expansive and thus perhaps more interesting and beautiful, it might be worthwhile to pay and go along with a golfer as a spectator. Just a thought....There are many beautiful views on both TV'S executive and Championship golf courses.

NO!!!!

[DARFAP]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

NO!!!!

I second that "NO!!!!"

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[Challenger]

Allowing non golfing people to wander on the courses is a very bad idea. During my 6 yrs playing in TV, I have had several instances of clueless people wandering across my shot path, or walking toward the tee . On one occasion in early evening I saw two people walking on a green and taking pictures during active play. No should be " Absolute" . Have also seen residents and others taking golf course cart paths as shortcuts to their home or other destinations. In some cases they were doing this in reverse direction of golfer traffic.

Once something like this gets started, people begin skirting the rules and begin to get sloppy about following the established procedures.
Kind of like minor exceptions to "deed restrictions" Another "slippery slope"