[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Do you Own a Gas Guzzler?

Yep!
24.7 average MPG.
Love it, and not changing!

LOL you don't know what a gas guzzler is. Full size older suv 4x4. 13.5 mpg. Lucky it's not our primary veh. I love it and have no intention of getting rid of it

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Speedie

All part of the plan folks. When gas is over $5 then elec cars make sense. However we must spend multi billions to install charging stations paid by taxpayers. The electricity mostly comes from coal fired plants, so not so green.

If we subsidized oil drilling in the US my guess is that gas would soon be $1 and we could thumb our nose at Iran Russia Saudi Venez.

I am confused, completely utterly confused. Are you saying that we don't subsidize oil exploration and extraction? Are you saying that coal is the source of most of the electricity in this country? Can you perhaps provide me with links as to how much electricity is coal generated, and how little the US taxpayer has given the gas and oil industry in the last few years? That will help my confusion. I'll check back.

[OhioBuckeye]

I presently live in Texas & yes we do see lots of pick up trucks. Usually when the U.S. has a gas issue trucks are usually the first thing to not sell. We went through this once before. If we want to live like we did we have to make some changes! It’s getting to be a scary world & the U.S. hasn’t went through this since the depression. Lucky for most of us, most of us weren’t born in 1928. We live in America & we’ll pull out of this!

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by blueash

I am confused, completely utterly confused. Are you saying that we don't subsidize oil exploration and extraction? Are you saying that coal is the source of most of the electricity in this country? Can you perhaps provide me with links as to how much electricity is coal generated, and how little the US taxpayer has given the gas and oil industry in the last few years? That will help my confusion. I'll check back.

Not directed to me, but...

Fully 60% of electricity in America is generated with fossil fuels. Of this amount 38.3% is from natural gas, 21.8% comes from coal. Nuclear comes in at 18.9%. 20% is generated with "renewables", including wind (9.2%), Hydroelectric (6.3%), Photovoltaic (2.8%) and Solar (2.8%). The rest (each under 1%) comes from various sources such as landfill gas, wood, etc. (U.S. Energy Information Administration website, tools - FAQ)

[chrisinva]

6 year old Prius - 55 mpg around town, 60-65 mpg on highway. Not for sale.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Ever wish you own a vehicle that got better gas mileage for long trips
that gas prices are at historical high?

Is this a bad time to trade?
Is electric the answer?

Thank goodness for golfcarts in TV.

Just be thankful you can still buy gas at any price. Lots of problems to solve before electric vehicles will be majority on roads, especially cross country travel.

[chrisinva]

Used to own a Dodge Durango, 4x 4, V6 & loved it, BUT got 12mpg & maybe 15 on highway. Been driving Toyotas since then.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by blueash

I am confused, completely utterly confused. Are you saying that we don't subsidize oil exploration and extraction? Are you saying that coal is the source of most of the electricity in this country? Can you perhaps provide me with links as to how much electricity is coal generated, and how little the US taxpayer has given the gas and oil industry in the last few years? That will help my confusion. I'll check back.

Oil and gas subsidized to keep the gold mine going. Federal government and state government make more on gallon gas than oil companies producing it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye

I presently live in Texas & yes we do see lots of pick up trucks. Usually when the U.S. has a gas issue trucks are usually the first thing to not sell. We went through this once before. If we want to live like we did we have to make some changes! It’s getting to be a scary world & the U.S. hasn’t went through this since the depression. Lucky for most of us, most of us weren’t born in 1928. We live in America & we’ll pull out of this!

Yes, we got lot needy and demanding more since then.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Ever wish you own a vehicle that got better gas mileage for long trips that gas prices are at historical high?

Is this a bad time to trade?
Is electric the answer?

Yes, F250 diesel truck for pulling trailers
32 gallon tank, $5 per gallon = $160 complete fillip
20-22 mpg on a highway trip at 65-69 mph.

Yes, very bad time to trade. . not for type of fuel, but for availability of replacement cars

Is electric the answer? yes, but only if you are driving around TV, and don't mind paying a higher electric bill.

A friend of a friend has an electric car, he couldn't care less about gas prices, but he is oblivious to the increase in the monthly electric bill of $120+. There is no free lunch.

be careful for what you think the quick and easy solution is. .

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Why yes. I'm considering getting rid of our world's smallest four seat car and replacing it with this. It hits every trendy and correct button. It's earth friendly, carbon neutral, and it uses renewable energy.

Or I might just wait to see the election results in 2024 and then make my decision.

But, it made and produced by fossil fuels.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Larchap49

LOL you don't know what a gas guzzler is. Full size older suv 4x4. 13.5 mpg. Lucky it's not our primary veh. I love it and have no intention of getting rid of it

I had dodge ram charger in early 80’s. I was lucky to get 10 miles gallon. And that was with SB 318 two barrel.

[ChicagoNative]

Electric cars aren’t as green as the tree-huggers want us to believe.

The Environmental Impact of Lithium Batteries - IER

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by Garywt

So my daily driver for the past 8 years is a Ford F-350 with a 6.2 liter gas engine. Gas guzzler, I get about 12 mpg. I don’t drive it everyday anymore but drive it often. I love the truck, longest I have owned a vehicle and no plans to get rid of it. Even if I wanted to, the dealers do not have anything on their lots to buy. The other day, the pump shut off at $100 and almost gave me a full tank. It is not the first time we have seen prices like these. I believe it was twice before.

Back in 2000 I stopped for diesel fuel for my F-350 at a station on Donner Pass, on the California Nevada border. I paid $5.00 a gallon. I went in and paid and said, "You didn't even buy me dinner." In 2008 I was also paying $5.00 a gallon for diesel. I still have a diesel vehicle, I'll pay what it costs to buy fuel..... cheaper than buying a Tesla <g>

[ringmic88]

The rising price of gas goes far beyond the mpg of your car. If you only see this issue as a cost to drive your car you have missed the big picture of how this effects every part of your life. It is directly tied to inflation and even if you do not drive a car at all or if you drive an electric car, it has a profound effect on your daily life. This country (and the world) is being destroyed by this climate change agenda. Hope it stops soon.