[lovsthosebigdogs]

I thought I read somewhere in my deed restrictions that clotheslines were not permitted. I have always loved my clothesline but was resigned to giving it up, along with having a pack of dogs that I will miss, when I move to TV. It is what it is. Am I wrong about the clothesline?

[Bonny]

No clotheslines outside.

[gadaboutgal]

The Villages covenants: "The hanging of clothes, or clotheslines, or placing of clothespoles is prohibited to the extent allowed by law."

HOWEVER:
Florida State Law: "Title XI
COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS Chapter 163
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROGRAMS


163.04 Energy devices based on renewable resources.--
(1) Notwithstanding any provision of this chapter or other provision of general or special law, the adoption of an ordinance by a governing body, as those terms are defined in this chapter, which prohibits or has the effect of prohibiting the installation of solar collectors, clotheslines, or other energy devices based on renewable resources is expressly prohibited.
(2) A deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or similar binding agreement may not prohibit or have the effect of prohibiting solar collectors, clotheslines, or other energy devices based on renewable resources from being installed on buildings erected on the lots or parcels covered by the deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or binding agreement. A property owner may not be denied permission to install solar collectors or other energy devices by any entity granted the power or right in any deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or similar binding agreement to approve, forbid, control, or direct alteration of property with respect to residential dwellings and within the boundaries of a condominium unit. Such entity may determine the specific location where solar collectors may be installed on the roof within an orientation to the south or within 45� east or west of due south if such determination does not impair the effective operation of the solar collectors.
(3) In any litigation arising under the provisions of this section, the prevailing party shall be entitled to costs and reasonable attorney's fees.
(4) The legislative intent in enacting these provisions is to protect the public health, safety, and welfare by encouraging the development and use of renewable resources in order to conserve and protect the value of land, buildings, and resources by preventing the adoption of measures which will have the ultimate effect, however unintended, of driving the costs of owning and operating commercial or residential property beyond the capacity of private owners to maintain. This section shall not apply to patio railings in condominiums, cooperatives, or apartments.
History.--s. 8, ch. 80-163; s. 1, ch. 92-89; s. 14, ch. 93-249; s. 1, ch. 2008-191; s. 3, ch. 2008-227."
(see: Flsenate Archive: Statutes & Constitution > View Statutes :->2010->Chapter 163->Part I)

[gomoho]

WOW - who is going to be the first the challenge this???

[bargee]

My neighbor already did and he won.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Where is it written?

Originally Posted by Bonny

No clotheslines outside.

Originally Posted by gadaboutgal

The Villages covenants: "The hanging of clothes, or clotheslines, or placing of clothespoles is prohibited to the extent allowed by law."

HOWEVER:
Florida State Law: "Title XI
COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS Chapter 163
INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROGRAMS


163.04 Energy devices based on renewable resources.--
(1) Notwithstanding any provision of this chapter or other provision of general or special law, the adoption of an ordinance by a governing body, as those terms are defined in this chapter, which prohibits or has the effect of prohibiting the installation of solar collectors, clotheslines, or other energy devices based on renewable resources is expressly prohibited.
(2) A deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or similar binding agreement may not prohibit or have the effect of prohibiting solar collectors, clotheslines, or other energy devices based on renewable resources from being installed on buildings erected on the lots or parcels covered by the deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or binding agreement. A property owner may not be denied permission to install solar collectors or other energy devices by any entity granted the power or right in any deed restriction, covenant, declaration, or similar binding agreement to approve, forbid, control, or direct alteration of property with respect to residential dwellings and within the boundaries of a condominium unit. Such entity may determine the specific location where solar collectors may be installed on the roof within an orientation to the south or within 45� east or west of due south if such determination does not impair the effective operation of the solar collectors.
(3) In any litigation arising under the provisions of this section, the prevailing party shall be entitled to costs and reasonable attorney's fees.
(4) The legislative intent in enacting these provisions is to protect the public health, safety, and welfare by encouraging the development and use of renewable resources in order to conserve and protect the value of land, buildings, and resources by preventing the adoption of measures which will have the ultimate effect, however unintended, of driving the costs of owning and operating commercial or residential property beyond the capacity of private owners to maintain. This section shall not apply to patio railings in condominiums, cooperatives, or apartments.
History.--s. 8, ch. 80-163; s. 1, ch. 92-89; s. 14, ch. 93-249; s. 1, ch. 2008-191; s. 3, ch. 2008-227."
(see: Flsenate Archive: Statutes & Constitution > View Statutes :->2010->Chapter 163->Part I)

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by bargee

My neighbor already did and he won.

What Village does this neighbor live in?

[SantaClaus]

Wow! If they are going to (or have to) allow that then they should allow 6' privacy fences so we don't have to look at it! TV was very sneaky in their "to the extent allowed by law" language. They clearly want you to think it's prohibited and to be ignorant of the superceding rights granted in law.

[travelguy]

Originally Posted by DianeM

Why not just use the dryer to dry clothes? Thar's what it's for. Why make laundry harder than it has to be? I'm sorry but I don't understand the need for hanging wet stuff to dry when we have machines that do the job for us.

yeah, who needs to hang up clothes on a line. have not used a clothes line since we got an electric dryer in about 1951. and threw out the steam iron and ironing board when permanent press came on the scene in about 1969.
and who washes dishes by hand? isn't this the 21st century?

[Bogie Shooter]

I think clothes lines will look like a gypsy camp. Is that what you want??

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SantaClaus

Wow! If they are going to (or have to) allow that then they should allow 6' privacy fences so we don't have to look at it! TV was very sneaky in their "to the extent allowed by law" language. They clearly want you to think it's prohibited and to be ignorant of the superceding rights granted in law.

I am sure that when you move here that it will be clearer that the developers aren't sneaky. They do so many wonderful things without being asked. When I first considered moving to The villages, I came to this forum very skeptical and wondered "what is the catch???". After I was here for a short while and saw how they take care of things, paint their buildings every year and power wash things and go the extra mile, I became a huge cheerleader for the developer.


I think there is some chink in the law that allows the greenies to hang clothes outside but I don't think that others used to deed restrictions are very appreciative of it. You can hang them on your lanai or in your garage and get them just as dry.

[nitehawk]

Lets try and keep the world Green - and use the sun to dry cloths --- Sorry

[SantaClaus]

Well, just to be clear, I think they were "being sneaky" for the greater good, to maintain a high appearance standard. If they could disallow it they would, and the vast majority would agree, but since they can't they implied that it was not allowed to dissuade the few. I wouldn't speak blasphemy against the Morse family, obviously I'm a fan of what they've accomplished, even if it occasionally requires a bit of sneakiness.

Edited to fix typo.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by bargee

My neighbor already did and he won.

Originally Posted by gomoho

What Village does this neighbor live in?

still waiting for that answer.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

How big are your clothes that they won't fit in the dryer?