[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Acknowledgment that multiple searches return different results yet still no links to the pages or documents supporting that belief.

type the words: is sabal gasoline planning an expansion in the villages No capitalization or ? I do not know what more I can give you. As I stated, each time I ask using those words, I get a different response. Sometimes with more detailed information, sometimes not. Sometimes a Yes, sometimes a No. I had to make several attempts with the same words. Then capitalizing the word Sabal, then changing expansion to extension, then adding Florida after the word villages. I am telling the truth. EACH TIME I GET A DIFFERENT RESPONSE. If you eliminate the word gasoline, you will get a different answer. I tried several different ways with changes in grammar, I can not remember which gave me the most detailed answer.

[ohioshooter]

If I’m not mistaken, this pipeline is natural gas, not gasoline. Secondly, why are some people trying to disprove this. Why don’t you just sit back and see what happens. The people I see that don’t believe this don’t live in this area, so how does it affect you.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by ohioshooter

If I’m not mistaken, this pipeline is natural gas, not gasoline. Secondly, why are some people trying to disprove this. Why don’t you just sit back and see what happens. The people I see that don’t believe this don’t live in this area, so how does it affect you.

They do not believe it because AI says no. Understandable. But, if they continue to research they will find what the OP is stating is true. It takes effort. Not just believing the first words you read and not looking at a broad summary.

Yes, it is natural gas. But, I found my answer by typing the word gasoline. Odd, but it worked for me. I believed the OP and knew if I tried several ways, I could find the information.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

type the words: is sabal gasoline planning an expansion in the villages No capitalization or ? I do not know what more I can give you. As I stated, each time I ask using those words, I get a different response. Sometimes with more detailed information, sometimes not. Sometimes a Yes, sometimes a No. I had to make several attempts with the same words. Then capitalizing the word Sabal, then changing expansion to extension, then adding Florida after the word villages. I am telling the truth. EACH TIME I GET A DIFFERENT RESPONSE. If you eliminate the word gasoline, you will get a different answer. I tried several different ways with changes in grammar, I can not remember which gave me the most detailed answer.

You do know because I keep asking for the same thing, even in the post you responded to:

One or three links to pages that support the OP’s claim that Sabal will be using eminent domain to take property from over 1500 Villagers and bring down property values for even more.

Things that appear to be known:
- the pipeline runs along the interstate
- there are plans for an expansion
- homeowners along the path may be approached to allow access to survey teams
- the expansion pipeline is expected to use the existing right of way for the most part

It none of that says 1500+ homeowners will lose land or property value.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

You do know because I kept asking for the same thing, even in the post you responded to:

One or three links to pages that support the OP’s claim that Sabal will be using eminent domain to take property from over 1500 Villagers and bring down property values for even more.

As I stated, I made several attempts by changing my question slightly. Each time, I got a different response. I cannot remember which of my questions gave me the most detailed information. I did read the notification spoke of property assessment and right of way. There was not much detail. Sabal uses Federal eminent domain to acquire property. Sabal had to get approval to change the current status of rural in the Villages. SABAL IS IN THE PLANNING PHASE. The plan can change. Again, I cannot remember which of my questions gave me that information. Play with the wording: is sabal gasoline planning an expansion in the villages. This is how I found what I was looking for. When I research online, I never stop at one question. I ask differently several times.

Also note that my responses are for those who stated the expansion does not include the Villages. It does! My response does not defend the claim that home values will drop. There is no proof that this will occur. It MAY happen.

[tralemaster]

From ChatGPT: Yes — if you mean Sabal Trail Transmission, not “Sable,” then an expansion is genuinely being planned, and it could affect parts of The Villages area. The important part is that the exact route is not final yet.

Sabal Trail’s own project page says it is in the early assessment stage of expanding its existing interstate natural-gas system. The company proposes a new pipeline segment along or near the existing route from Alexander City, Alabama to Reunion, Florida, plus additional compressor capacity. It says landowner outreach and survey requests began in summer 2026, with construction targeted for Q2 2029 if approvals are obtained.

The reason this matters locally is that the existing Sabal Trail line already runs through southern Sumter County in areas that have since been built out by The Villages. A federal pipeline-safety document specifically notes that residential development from The Villages now directly abuts the existing 50-foot pipeline right-of-way, with homes, trails, roads, pools, clubhouses and other amenities nearby.

There are also current local reports from residents in DeLuna saying some property owners have received communications related to the proposed expansion. Those reports are consistent with Sabal Trail’s stated 2026 schedule of contacting landowners and requesting survey permission, but the local forum claims about 1,500 homes, eminent domain, reduced property values, or a definite final alignment through specific lots are not yet established by the official project materials.

So the clearest answer is:

* Yes, Sabal Trail is planning an expansion.
* Yes, the existing corridor is close enough to or within developed parts of The Villages that some Villages property owners may be affected.
* No, the final route through DeLuna or other specific Villages neighborhoods has not yet been finalized publicly.
* No, I would not yet treat claims about exactly how many homes will be affected or which parcels will require new easements as confirmed.

The official timeline has landowner meetings in Q4 2026, a public open-house process in 2027, a FERC application in early 2028, and construction beginning in 2029 if approved.

[LenoxHillLil]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The Sabal Trail pipeline is a 'done deal,' and now Central Floridians begin to realize what’s about to come through their backyards

The map is interesting.

This touched me quietly: "Toward the back, Beverly Soulshine holds her 7-month-old baby, Atom, as tears stream down her cheeks. They traveled four hours to get here from an area near Pensacola. Soulshine says she cries because she knows despite the protests, the arrests and the settlement camps, there’s no stopping the Sabal Trail pipeline."

With electric cars becoming more popular the last thing we need is another gas pipeline through the villages. What if there is a leak, who is responsible for cleanup?

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I did that in 83 or 84 at the Rocky Flats Plant. We didn't get enough people to surround it but it was fun. Radioactive contamination from the Rocky Flats Plant - Wikipedia

So, let me get this straight...getting together to disrupt peoples' lives and damage property is considered "fun"? Got it 👍

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

I guess I got a different answer.

And this is why I don't trust AI.

[gobuck827]

Originally Posted by LenoxHillLil

With electric cars becoming more popular the last thing we need is another gas pipeline through the villages. What if there is a leak, who is responsible for cleanup?

You do realize that the proposed pipeline is for natural gas and not gasoline, right? All of those electric cars will need the additional natural gas to generate the electricity to recharge them.

[[email protected]]

What did the developer know about this and when did he know? Could bring very deep pockets into this case.

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by LenoxHillLil

This touched me quietly: "Toward the back, Beverly Soulshine holds her 7-month-old baby, Atom, as tears stream down her cheeks. They traveled four hours to get here from an area near Pensacola. Soulshine says she cries because she knows despite the protests, the arrests and the settlement camps, there’s no stopping the Sabal Trail pipeline."

With electric cars becoming more popular the last thing we need is another gas pipeline through the villages. What if there is a leak, who is responsible for cleanup?

What if the sky falls?

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by gobuck827

The map you are looking for is on the National Pipeline Mapping System (NPMS) general public portal page.

It shows the Sabal pipeline crossing under 301 just North of the little group of CYV's at the Southern end of Silvana Wyoming. It continues East through the preserve area till it reaches the walking path North of Marsh Bend Trl. It follows the walking path corridor until it crosses under Haley Av. From there it parallels the Turnpike SE until just East of the Everglades softball fields where it turns South. It goes South down the West side of Marsh Bend Trail and under Warm Springs Av. On the South side of Warm Springs, it again turns East and crosses under Marsh Bend until it again reaches the Turnpike where it once again parallels the Turnpike until it turns South to the East of Bexley Trl.

We saw a major gas line construction project along the turnpike before the villages jumped over. At that time, we speculated that the Villages would soon follow; it did. These large utilities typically have rights of way, so I don’t see private homeowners being affected on a large scale.

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

No. I did not use that AI summary. I typed the words: is sabal gasoline planning an expansion in the villages I then researched more. My research found that every word the OP stated is true. However, Sabal is in the planning phase. I also found that when the pipeline was laid the land was considered rural. New construction including Middleton required Sabal to change the status since the area is no longer rural. The expansion is needed for the increase in population. I also found that golf paths, pools, and recreation centers abut the pipeline. The Village of Linden was also mentioned. Perhaps homeowners in that area received notifications as well

I am not being a jerk by witholding the information I found . Strange, each time I type the words, I receive a different answer. Currently, it is giving me the information the OP placed on Talk of the Villages. 30 minutes ago, the information was different.

And I rest my case AGAINST AI 🤖

[defrey12]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

type the words: is sabal gasoline planning an expansion in the villages No capitalization or ? I do not know what more I can give you. As I stated, each time I ask using those words, I get a different response. Sometimes with more detailed information, sometimes not. Sometimes a Yes, sometimes a No. I had to make several attempts with the same words. Then capitalizing the word Sabal, then changing expansion to extension, then adding Florida after the word villages. I am telling the truth. EACH TIME I GET A DIFFERENT RESPONSE. If you eliminate the word gasoline, you will get a different answer. I tried several different ways with changes in grammar, I can not remember which gave me the most detailed answer.

If you're searching for "gasoline" it will NEVER come up. And that's because natural gas and gasoline are two different things. Y'all are aware of that, correct?