[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by mraines

That's not how I read it. I read that it would have to be specific to allow golfers to retrieve their balls, ohterwise, they are trespassing.

Again, the exact quote from the experts in real estate law-----"In plain English, it means that golfers have a legal right—at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner—to come onto your property to retrieve a golf ball."

I'd like to understand how anyone could read that differently, hence I addressed to issue to a lawyer

[Topspinmo]

You do know there are invisible fences right?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Again, the exact quote from the experts in real estate law-----"In plain English, it means that golfers have a legal right—at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner—to come onto your property to retrieve a golf ball."

I'd like to understand how anyone could read that differently, hence I addressed to issue to a lawyer

Yep, golfers are special? Meaning they make up rules. Golfing lawyers probably made up those rules so they can reasonably don’t anything they want…..

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by mraines

That's not how I read it. I read that it would have to be specific to allow golfers to retrieve their balls, ohterwise, they are trespassing.

The state issues permits to do door-to-door soliciting. Apparently, the state does not consider that to be trespassing, even though you need to cross the property line to get to the front door.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Yep, golfers are special? Meaning they make up rules. Golfing lawyers probably made up those rules so they can reasonably don’t anything they want…..

I believe the Florida State Legislature "makes up the rules", not golfers.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

I don't leave a ball in someone's yard that could be picked up by a mower and thrown through a window. Besides, I agree with the others who say buying on a golf course comes with balls in your yard and golfers coming to retrieve their property.

How honorable and selfless to have the foresight to protect my property. Never thought of it that way. I live on a golf course. I'll have to tax my memory how many times the lawn guy hit a golf ball and broke one of my windows. I"ll bet you can guess. I guess I'm lucky my lawn guy's mower doesn't have the loft of a nine iron.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Again, the exact quote from the experts in real estate law-----"In plain English, it means that golfers have a legal right—at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner—to come onto your property to retrieve a golf ball."

I'd like to understand how anyone could read that differently, hence I addressed to issue to a lawyer

You seem to have missed "If the deed restrictions allow it." Some deed restrictions state no golfer can enter an owner's yard to retrieve a golf ball. If you choose to do so, you are breaking the law.

[DonH57]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

You do know there are invisible fences right?

I know I forget at times until I forget to take my collar off.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

You seem to have missed "If the deed restrictions allow it." Some deed restrictions state no golfer can enter an owner's yard to retrieve a golf ball. If you choose to do so, you are breaking the law.

I'm confused. Deed restrictions apply to the homeowner, not golfers. How can a deed restriction cause a golfer to break the law?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I'm confused. Deed restrictions apply to the homeowner, not golfers. How can a deed restriction cause a golfer to break the law?

If the deed restrictions state NO GOLFER is permitted on a home owners property to retrieve an errant golf ball, the words NO GOLFER implies not one golfer has the right to enter a yard to retrieve an errant golf ball. Deed restrictions do not only outline what a homeowner can do to his/her property. They also outline THEIR RIGHTS.

[Teleplayer]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

If the deed restrictions state NO GOLFER is permitted on a home owners property to retrieve an errant golf ball, the words NO GOLFER implies not one golfer has the right to enter a yard to retrieve an errant golf ball. Deed restrictions do not only outline what a homeowner can do to his/her property. They also outline THEIR RIGHTS.

Does your Deed Restrictions say that? Does anyone's in The Villages say that?

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by Teleplayer

Does your Deed Restrictions say that? Does anyone's in The Villages say that?

Mine does not. Some may. See post #3. Golfing in the Villages reminds golfers to please, do not retrieve your golf balls from a homeowner's property.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

If the deed restrictions state NO GOLFER is permitted on a home owners property to retrieve an errant golf ball, the words NO GOLFER implies not one golfer has the right to enter a yard to retrieve an errant golf ball. Deed restrictions do not only outline what a homeowner can do to his/her property. They also outline THEIR RIGHTS.

But, your post says: "if you choose to do so, you are breaking the law". How is a golfer supposed to know what your deed restrictions say? Maybe the homeowner needs to post their deed restrictions on their property as a warning? And, if the golfer violates the deed restriction, how does the homeowner enforce it?

I tried to enforce a deed restriction that prohibits vehicle owners from parking in the visitor parking lot. But, the deed compliance rep told me that, because the vehicle was not owned by a homeowner, there was no way to enforce the deed restriction. The vehicle owner was not a neighborhood resident, not a visitor, and he didn't even live in The Villages. Yet, he still parked his vehicle there for more than 6 months. The police would do nothing because it was private property, owned by The Villages. Go figure.

[margaretmattson]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

But, your post says: "if you choose to do so, you are breaking the law". How is a golfer supposed to know what your deed restrictions say? Maybe the homeowner needs to post their deed restrictions on their property as a warning? And, if the golfer violates the deed restriction, how does the homeowner enforce it?

I tried to enforce a deed restriction that prohibits vehicle owners from parking in the visitor parking lot. But, the deed compliance rep told me that, because the vehicle was not owned by a homeowner, there was no way to enforce the deed restriction. The vehicle owner was not a neighborhood resident, not a visitor, and he didn't even live in The Villages. Yet, he still parked his vehicle there for more than 6 months. The police would do nothing because it was private property, owned by The Villages. Go figure.

Some on this thread commented Florida law permits you to retrieve your errant golf ball on a homeowner's property. My post was to state: NOT ALWAYS. Some comments seem to emphasize that there is nothing a homeowner can do to keep golfers out of their yard to retrieve a golf ball. If the deed restrictions do not allow it, any golfer that does would be trespassing. Trespassing is against the law. I believe calling the police would put an end to it. Though I am not certain.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by margaretmattson

Some on this thread commented Florida law permits you to retrieve your errant golf ball on a homeowner's property. My post was to state: NOT ALWAYS. Some comments seem to emphasize that there is nothing a homeowner can do to keep golfers out of their yard to retrieve a golf ball. If the deed restrictions do not allow it, any golfer that does would be trespassing. Trespassing is against the law. I believe calling the police would put an end to it. Though I am not certain.

Florida law would supercede a deed restriction. But, does any Villages deed restriction even state that? Can you cite one?