[billethkid]

Originally Posted by ken.yotz

More Covid mismanagement by the Feds and state.

In my opinion Covid IS BEING MANAGED...

I believe even those who run the SafeRestart program were surprised and left flat footed....
Why would anybody staff up and start a program of such magnitude without knowing available sources and supply chain requirements?
THEY WOULD NOT!!

Recall months ago when warp speed was being touted.
Suppliers were so confident they were already ramping up production to the tune of millions per day/week.
Hence a major build up.....somewhere.

Something has definitely changed....and as usual with no communications, speculation will and is running wild.

Even our very "adept media" trouble/dirt/scheme digger uppers did not detect any issues?!?!?!

The only positive from my perspective? I did get two emails at 7:25 pm last night about the delay...mine and my wife's....about the delay. Confirms we are on a list somewhere in the system.

Ironically (coincidence?) the time of day of the receipt of the delay email was the same time as on our initial confirmation email from SafeRestart.

I suspect the managing of the Covid plans of action will take a new direction (for the better) 1/21/2021!!!

As for the question whether we are shipping vaccine outside the USA....until proven otherwise history would suggest .....of course we are!!!

The counsel we receive thus far of being patient has no merit/validity.

Recent and current performance to promise warrants no better grading!!

[Singerlady]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

My concern......... is the efficacy of the vaccine as good if the 2nd shot is later than it is supposed to be given which is 28 days for the Moderna vaccine? What if it is days or even weeks late? What happens then? Do we start over?

I'm not expecting anyone to have the answers. Just venting.

Not sure they tested that aspect with this expedited rollout. They’ve got to have some data, but maybe not what they’d like to have.

[gwenhwalker@yahoo.com]

Originally Posted by laryb

Here's what I just read:

Global Medical Response Suspends COVID-19 Vaccines in Sumter County Due to National Vaccine Shortage

Received notice by text and email that all registered are on hold

[merrymini]

Love the armchair quarterbacks. It is so easy to deal with a world pandemic. We should have been prepared! Just like the mass production of hand sanitizer, masks and disposable gloves, eventually filling landfills all over the country. If you believe fauci or the cdc, you have been nipping at the brandy.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by SacDQ

The news has released Biden’s new plan and they will be distributing the remaining vaccine differently. Targeting those in areas hit the hardest.
I guess Florida is not on the list.

Production is far more of an issue than distribution. It remains to be seen if he can do anything about that.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

Look, everyone know this administration did not order enough vaccine. Something ugly is behind this. But we wait.

Enough has been ordered to vaccinate virtually everyone who wants a shot. The problem is in production. Also, the FDA is sitting on approval for AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine which already has been approved by multiple countries. Blame them.

[asianthree]

If I was thinking of getting the vaccine, I would be glad in not receiving the first dose.
The studies for the vaccine were for doses given at x number of days, for 2 doses, to reach 94-96%.
If they held second dose, later for either company, to see the outcome, one would think it would have been in their press release.

A just in case we can’t produce, enough vaccine this is the % without 2nd dose, or dose given 60 days later

[wiltma]

Originally Posted by RaunchyRich

Put the mask back on

They should never have come off

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by asianthree

If I was thinking of getting the vaccine, I would be glad in not receiving the first dose.
The studies for the vaccine were for doses given at x number of days, for 2 doses, to reach 94-96%.
If they held second dose, later for either company, to see the outcome, one would think it would have been in their press release.

A just in case we can’t produce, enough vaccine this is the % without 2nd dose, or dose given 60 days later

I think it is far better to have 60% immunity with one shot than NO immunity. Two shots give you better than 90% immunity.

NOW I am hearing conspiracy theories that the inability to GET the shots right now is due to some behind the scenes hold up to make the next person in charge look good.

I don't believe that. I think I don't believe that.

No. I don't listen to conspiracy theories.....but so much STUFF is happening that make us all wonder who is driving the truck.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think it is far better to have 60% immunity with one shot than NO immunity. Two shots give you better than 90% immunity.

NOW I am hearing conspiracy theories that the inability to GET the shots right now is due to some behind the scenes hold up to make the next person in charge look good.

I don't believe that. I think I don't believe that.

No. I don't listen to conspiracy theories.....but so much STUFF is happening that make us all wonder who is driving the truck.

especially with today's technical, computer prowess, capability and genius...the current results earn suspicion!

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by Eg_cruz

I am blown away how fast people are willing to be lab rats.

Agreed. Very few are thinking about this. The masses are throwing all caution to the wind and treating the vaccine like it was sent from God. Yes, tests and studies were done. But, only over a relatively short time period. What if this vaccine rears an unseen, ugly head 6-12 months from now ... severe adverse reactions or worse. Who's fault will that be? Well, the answer is each and every person who takes this vaccine. You (and only you) are primarily responsible for your own health and anything that threatens it.

Eat right such that you get sufficient quantities of Vit C, Zinc. You are all fortunate to live in the sunshine state. Get outside and expose yourself to the sun (that's how vitamin D is made - no you can't put in sunscreen and make vitamin D). Provide for your immune system and it will provide for you. How many people are taking this approach, I wonder.

Screw with your immune system (vaccine) and you take risks on what the result will be. Pfizer and Moderna don't know what they don't know.
Not enough people are thinking this through.

[Max0431Zoe]

Originally Posted by laryb

Here's what I just read:

Global Medical Response Suspends COVID-19 Vaccines in Sumter County Due to National Vaccine Shortage

Here is the link. Global Medical Response Suspends COVID-19 Vaccines in Sumter County Due to National Vaccine Shortage

[Byte1]

We received emails this morning that they are out of vaccine and will contact us when or if they get more.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Originally Posted by New Englander

There was suppose to be millions of doses of the vaccines sitting in freezers. How can this be? So the nine month nightmare continues.

Remember when we were told it would be "years" before a vaccine would be available? Now we're grousing that supplies of said vaccine are delayed? 🙄

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Agreed. Very few are thinking about this. The masses are throwing all caution to the wind and treating the vaccine like it was sent from God. Yes, tests and studies were done. But, only over a relatively short time period. What if this vaccine rears an unseen, ugly head 6-12 months from now ... severe adverse reactions or worse. Who's fault will that be? Well, the answer is each and every person who takes this vaccine. You (and only you) are primarily responsible for your own health and anything that threatens it.

Eat right such that you get sufficient quantities of Vit C, Zinc. You are all fortunate to live in the sunshine state. Get outside and expose yourself to the sun (that's how vitamin D is made - no you can't put in sunscreen and make vitamin D). Provide for your immune system and it will provide for you. How many people are taking this approach, I wonder.

Screw with your immune system (vaccine) and you take risks on what the result will be. Pfizer and Moderna don't know what they don't know.
Not enough people are thinking this through.

Just how long is long enough for the study you would like to see? And please, don't reply in minutes or hours, the number would be too long and months or years would be too small. Let's try lives.

At about 3,000 lives per day, 20,000 lives per week, and something like 80,000 lives per month, how many lives are you willing to sacrifice to be absolutely confident? At the current pace, your 6 - 12 months would equate to 500,000 - 900,000 additional lives lost to waiting. Would 1,200,000 dead Americans be sufficient for "thinking this through?"