[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

Agreed. Very few are thinking about this. The masses are throwing all caution to the wind and treating the vaccine like it was sent from God. Yes, tests and studies were done. But, only over a relatively short time period. What if this vaccine rears an unseen, ugly head 6-12 months from now ... severe adverse reactions or worse. Who's fault will that be? Well, the answer is each and every person who takes this vaccine. You (and only you) are primarily responsible for your own health and anything that threatens it.

Eat right such that you get sufficient quantities of Vit C, Zinc. You are all fortunate to live in the sunshine state. Get outside and expose yourself to the sun (that's how vitamin D is made - no you can't put in sunscreen and make vitamin D). Provide for your immune system and it will provide for you. How many people are taking this approach, I wonder.

Screw with your immune system (vaccine) and you take risks on what the result will be. Pfizer and Moderna don't know what they don't know.
Not enough people are thinking this through.

what a nice thought...all you have to do is get the right vitamins. like no one who takes all those things have caught the virus. it's not just your immune system...it's viral load and how infectious the disease is, too and the new variant is much more contagious. I'll take my chances with the vaccine.

[BillyC]

We got registered on TUESDAY MORNING AT 6AM and got our 1st dose on Wednesday afternoon at 1PM..... and TRUST ME if you trust no one else: WE ARE NOT CONNECTED to ANYONE as you suggest.... we are not politically connected to ANYONE... you need get some FACTS before you or others start posting this NONSENSE... I hope the moderator pulls your post... this crap has to stop...

[gpk111]

Originally Posted by Edjkoz

Very concerning. We just got our first dose yesterday and canceled our appointment in Orange County because we though we would be good here. I just hope they straighten this out soon

After shopping around in various counties, we too cancelled ours in Orange County after receiving one in Duvall. They gave us an appointment card for 4 weeks out. Remember you have to go back to the same place you received the first shot.

Please PM if interested in sharing experiences within the crazy environment (I was going to say "system," but that would be over the top)

[stebooo]

If you can't confirm don't accuse

[DAVES]

My two cents worth.
From the financial news, I read a while ago that Pfizer is owned by China, Germany, ????? France and the US. Moderna was listed as US owned. I also read somewhere that Moderna costs less. No one is talking or even thinking about cost. What we are seeing is panic. I anticipate like what happens with toys, theater tickets etc that we will see scalpers.

[gpk111]

Most of the complaints seem to center around local distribution. There is a whole other world out there of counties which are within driving range. That now also included Publix and some hospitals. Most counties have mysterious sign up windows and the processes are all different. Hospitals tend not to want to bother with you at all unless you're a patient, but there are exceptions.

The moral: instead of focusing on the deficiencies of the local distribution, amuse yourself with the deficiencies and educate yourself about the occasional opportunities in the surrounding distribution systems.


In my case, I deemed Duvall and Orange County to present interesting opportunities.

Good luck, everyone.

[ithos]

Why could it take years to develop a coronavirus vaccine? Curious Texas explains.

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Instead of being grateful that we have had a vaccine in record time, it is sad that people use it as an opportunity to gratuitously inject their divisive and hateful political commentary.

Anyone who thought that there would not be glitches in rolling out a vaccine to billions of people for the first time believes in utopia.

We have greatly exceeded the expectations from just 10 months ago. I am very pleased with that.

[chrissy2231]

if you have apptmnt, they have stock

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by DAVES

My two cents worth.
From the financial news, I read a while ago that Pfizer is owned by China, Germany, ????? France and the US. Moderna was listed as US owned. I also read somewhere that Moderna costs less. No one is talking or even thinking about cost. What we are seeing is panic. I anticipate like what happens with toys, theater tickets etc that we will see scalpers.

I believe you are confusing a country investing in the research to make the vaccine with ownership. In addition you should reread where you think you have gotten this info as what you are saying is wrong

[Lottoguy]

Many of us trust the science and the experts. The "lab rats" have already been tested in three phases.

[JSR22]

Originally Posted by chrissy2231

if you have apptmnt, they have stock

Not true. The appointments have been canceled. They are out of stock.

[Jensor17]

Still a great country. For awhile. Don’t listen to fake news
Ps. I never even got date for 1st shot email said “your submission is received and approved and its date and time recorded. You’ll be contacted as additional times are released “ Now it ends. Before it started.
Only God knows our Fate and we can’t change THAT

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by matandch

The second shot is a booster to push efficacy up to the promised 95%. You will have up to 80% efficacy with just 1 shot. You do not have to start over.

80% Source please.

Pfizer said the late-stage trial found its shot was about 52% effective after the first dose, with study results showing protection starting as early as 12 days after receiving it. A week after the second dose, the shot's effectiveness rose to 95%, Pfizer said its study found.Jan 8, 2021

and

Doctors tell ABC7 News that the first vaccine shot gives 50 percent immunity, which doesn't kick in for a week with the Pfizer vaccine and two weeks with the Moderna vaccine.

and

Pfizer’s vaccine was 52% effective after the first shot and 95% after the second one.

How effective is a single vaccine dose against Covid-19? - BBC Future
Pretend it didn't happen – expert advice on how to behave after receiving a single dose of any of the Covid-19 vaccines.

[Lottoguy]

"Where are the other does?" Many go to the well connected and those with money to sidestep the entire process. Azar already said the truth was not told about the vaccine in reserve.

[EdFNJ]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I hate conspiracy theories but I worry about this.
[conspiracy theories edited out]
I hate conspiracy theories... we'll see what happens.

Then don't spread them.