[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by FMF Doc

Am I to believe that all accidents are reported where you live and where you moved from? The area in Illinois we lived in certainly did not report every accident in the paper. Once a year they may have reported the more dangerous areas and/or intersections with the most accidents and the cause but certainly not every one as they happened.

Even if they were reported do you think it would change the driving habits of those that are dangerous and reckless?

My point exactly. Careful what you say the flamers will be after you.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by chuckinca

A cart going slightly over 19.5 mph gets a big fine while a car going a few miles over 20 mph usually gets a pass.

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You gotta remember that a cart that can exceed 20mph is a cart that has been modified to go faster than is considered safe according to the law. You are not being fined for speeding, but for driving an unregistered vehicle because once that cart is capable of faster than 20mph, it is no longer legally a cart and not considered safe.

This is not a "law enforcement" issue as much it is a "safety enforcement" issue. Maybe that is splitting hairs, but I would rather have my hairs split than entirely scalped.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by villages07

Actually, the current POA newsletter does a pretty good job of explaining their logic. By compiling and reporting statistics it will educate and inform the residents on the frequency of incidents and location of danger spots. Also, more exposure will just generally heighten awareness that these are powerful vehicles and not toys.

I'm one of those who used to despise the POA newsletters, but, I gotta give them credit now. They address a wide range of controversial issues in a thorough and fair manner. These are topics that the Developer/Sun shy away from as they might be perceived as negatives to prospective homebuyers.

As with all information sources.... TOTV, POA, Daily Sun, Television News....it's up to each of us to decide what we choose to read and what we elect to ignore. Sounds to me like there is a fair amount of interest in this subject.

I stated in another post here that stats compiled need to be accurate if to be believed. Another aspect is that there must be a sufficient number for them to be reliable. Tanslated most of us won't be driving anything by the time the POA have sufficient number to be reliable

[The Great Fumar]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

To help prevent future accidents, it helps to know what causes accidents. Suppose the accident involved a low-speed vehicle trying to drive through the tunnel at an unsafe speed? From what I understand, they are allowed to use the golf cart trails as long as they obey the speed limit. But I have seen them zipping along at a much higher rate of speed than what is allowed. Some might think, "so what," they got what they deserved, but there could have been someone walking or riding their bike in that tunnel.

Another consideration: Careless driving, like careless eating habits, is what drives up Medicare premiums and car insurance premiums too.

Many thanks for all the good replies on this thread. You-all have a nice day now.

Riding a bike into a golf cart tunnel is a very dangerous thing to do and I'll address this as soon as I can figure out what it has to do with a HAM SANDWICH.......

puzzled fumar...

[OpusX1]

"Golf Cart Tunnel" I know of no golf cart tunnel's. There are tunnel's on the multi modal trail, the one that is available for many modes of transportation such as but not limited to golf carts, walkers, roller blades, segways, joggers, bikes, trikes, motor scooters.
Golf carts are the main reason for accidents on the multi modal trail mostly because they are operated unsafely, too fast, using the phone, drinking coffee and other beverages, just plain stupidly by people that think they are golf cart trails and you better get the hell outta my way.
Every so often but not really very often someone has a medical emergency while driving their golf cart, this is an accident, no ones fault just an accident. Most ofetn cart accidents are like car accidents, someone just wasn't paying enough attention to driving.

[dmorhome]

how else can they justify rasing the golf car insurance.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by The Great Fumar

Riding a bike into a golf cart tunnel is a very dangerous thing to do and I'll address this as soon as I can figure out what it has to do with a HAM SANDWICH.......

puzzled fumar...

The Great Fumar is fuming. Here's how it went down: The driver of a low speed vhicle entered the tunnel at a high rate of speed while eating a HAM SANDWICH. Suddenly, he noticed someone on a bike and swerved to the left. Startled by this, a golf cart driving in the oposite direction overcorrected to his right and hit the wall.

[CarGuys]

Originally Posted by hedoman

Somebody is going to get killed out there and we need to know how to reduce our risk. The tunnels are out of control with people speeding into them and having to swerve into the other lane (MINE!). I have seen numerous examples that if I wasn't driving defensively I would been clobbered.

Now WHERE are the instances of highest risk? Tunnels? LSL causeway bridge? Folks taking their half outta the middle coming around a curve facing a head on collision? Not yielding to cars? Drunken idiots? Kids?

Where can we adress the real issues. Studying the problem is the first step to education and resolution. LET'S DO THIS! Thanks POA for taking the lead...

I agree- As I said before Cart transportation is ideal however with the increase of traffic and many irresponsible Cart operators I think a Micro Car like a Smart Car or Fiat 500 or Mini Cooper within the Village is safer. Heat AC Wipers and Air Bags.

Now before you all jump on me I said WITHIN THE VILLAGES not out on the interstate. One Bad Cart accident and your Cart, Car or homeowners insurance could be cancled.

Lets see 10-13K for a new Cart. Lease a Smart for $99 per month for three years or buy one for $14k 0% finance.

Just thinking? Of course Daaaaaaaa I don't play Golf! And most of you do!

[CaptJohn]

Same kind of people on highways with autos. All they know how to do is swerve, thereby causing un-necessary problems and never think of using brakes and stopping to avoid a situation. They just don't want to be slowed down. Why is it the one causing the problem is not the ones injured?

[Skip2MySue]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

The Great Fumar is fuming. Here's how it went down: The driver of a low speed vhicle entered the tunnel at a high rate of speed while eating a HAM SANDWICH. Suddenly, he noticed someone on a bike and swerved to the left. Startled by this, a golf cart driving in the oposite direction overcorrected to his right and hit the wall.

And this also explains how the potato salad got hair in it
Skip 2

[Advogado]

Originally Posted by rubicon

I stated in another post here that stats compiled need to be accurate if to be believed. Another aspect is that there must be a sufficient number for them to be reliable. Tanslated most of us won't be driving anything by the time the POA have sufficient number to be reliable

I would think that if the Daily Sun were an independent publication, it would have, at some point, run a feature article on the subject of golf-cart accidents since the topic is of great interest and relevance to its readers. But news stories like that don't sell houses.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Advogado

I would think that if the Daily Sun were an independent publication, it would have, at some point, run a feature article on the subject of golf-cart accidents since the topic is of great interest and relevance to its readers. But news stories like that don't sell houses.

Boy howdy.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Skip2MySue

And this also explains how the potato salad got hair in it....
Skip 2

Actually, according to the driver of the low speed vehicle, the hair in the potato salad was the cause of the accident. He was finally apprehended about 2 miles from the scene of the accident. The excuse he gave for speeding: "Officer, I found a hair in my potato salad and was on my way to return it to the supermarket deli; I was trying to get there before closing time." Whereupon the officer thanked him for the wonderful excuse:

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Actually, according to the driver of the low speed vehicle, the hair in the potato salad was the cause of the accident. He was finally apprehended about 2 miles from the scene of the accident. The excuse he gave for speeding: "Officer, I found a hair in my potato salad and was on my way to return it to the supermarket deli; I was trying to get there before closing time." Whereupon the officer thanked him for the wonderful excuse:

Don't cha think some of our officer friendlys thought that this would be a do nothing area. We do have a lot of interesting folks here. Better than juvenile delinquents any day of the week. Hair in my potato salad. Writing that down.

[Boudicca]

As I drove the cart path from Colony, alongside the golf course in the direction of Hadley, I came upon a woman in a golf cart. She was repeatedly trying to drive her cart between the three posts planted in cement, put there to PREVENT carts from entering the road. I stopped to tell her that she needed to drive around the curve, then cross at the designated area. She was not listening, and kept repeating "my cart won't fit, its too wide"... When she eventually listened to me, she said "OH!" and then without looking, put the cart in reverse, mashed on the excellerator, and instantly collided with a cart patiently parked behind her (a few feet). Amid the screams and yells, and sound of cart parts breaking, I left. The were plenty of folks to take statements, but you can rest assured I drove the remainder of my trip VERY CAREFULLY. PS. I chose to drive the looooong way round from my residence in Buttonwood, to Hadley, in order to drive on designated cart paths - all the way around Turtle Mound, across to 466a and back across under the tunnel to Morse. Sigh.....