[Worldseries27]

In what suburban neighborhood in the usa would private homeowners welcome a 300 apartment building complex being built amongst them ?
It's not a villages issue, its a common sense one. In other words, " let's get ready to rumble"

[Northwoods]

Obviously a few people on this thread have been privy to the plans/layout of this apartment complex. They know they are going to use 9 holes of the championship golf course for the apartment complex, there isn't any restaurant, and it's going to ruin property values of homes in the area.
So can one of these people PLEASE post the layout/plans for the apartment complex?
You can't possibly be making assumptions (let's not forget what happens when you ASS U ME something).

[dwhite5773]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

WTF? This has NOTHING to do with Sumter County and the “bankrolled” FORMER commissioners. This is a CDD issue. The only issue I see with this is the amenities fee should roll to the CDD after the 5 years of developer control so that infrastructure maintenance, public safety, community watch, etc. can be funded through its respective channel! Mixed use is how the Villages progresses, apartments being part of that. Hopefully the increased traffic will be addressed, etc. As with the lofts at Brownwood, a great addition to TV for residents not wanting that task of maintaining their property.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk

You ever hear of Private Property? The developers OWN the land. They don't need or welcome or even deserve to be harangued by miserable Villagers. Get over it.

Holy cow, with so much crud going on in the world aren't there more important things to worry about? The developers don't tell you how to invest your money. What gives anyone the right to tell them how to invest theirs?

The property is private, but the location, ie community, in which it sets is possessed by all who live in it.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by CanTho

My comment is pretty simple. I look at the Brownwood Lofts and what the developer created on an open lot that was a borderline eyesore.

The Lofts are fantastic and the Recreation Center is well thought out and very inviting.

Everything that the Morse Family has done is really well planned and the end product is really nice.

I am certain that whatever the end product that is built will be fantastic !

Just let it go. They have made a well thought out business decision as usual.

The Lofts apartments and landscaping is very nicely done and will remain so.

[Jayhawk]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

The Lofts apartments and landscaping is very nicely done and will remain so.

As are the amenities, which are open to all Village residents.

[Debelg]

The problem that I have with apartments is that , before there were X amount of residents per golf course X amount of residents per swimming pool X amount of residents per rec-center and now there are hundreds of residents that will be added to those same recreation amenities the ratio will no longer be in balance so therefor "YES" it will effect all of us ,just wait until all those nice apartments will be occupied hundreds and hundreds of renters flowing into the amenities and......... Yes I don't like that

[JohnN]

Originally Posted by John41

Now that the developers puppet commissioners lost the election by a convincing 2 to 1 margin, perhaps he will change his hardball attitude and work with the residents and new POA sponsored commissioners.

My suggestion is the developer should refund the lot premium paid by affected owners when they purchased their homes. In return the developer would get the 300 amenity passes. Also shrubbery should be planted so the apartments not be visible to the surrounding area as much as possible. This refund agreement should be written into the purchase agreement of all homes on golf courses too and any other developer owned amenity.

It is not fair for the developer to keep the lot premium and get free amenity passes.

Good luck with that idea. You're expecting a lot of generosity in a business world This is all about money in the developer's pocket, not yours.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by dwhite5773

WTF? This has NOTHING to do with Sumter County and the “bankrolled” FORMER commissioners. This is a CDD issue. The only issue I see with this is the amenities fee should roll to the CDD after the 5 years of developer control so that infrastructure maintenance, public safety, community watch, etc. can be funded through its respective channel! Mixed use is how the Villages progresses, apartments being part of that. Hopefully the increased traffic will be addressed, etc. As with the lofts at Brownwood, a great addition to TV for residents not wanting that task of maintaining their property.

I wish people would learn how our systems of government work. Amenity fees north of 466 goes directly to the Amenity Authority Committee. The CDDs do not have control over how the AAC operates. The agreement made by the developer was with the AAC. The only way the county commissioners would be involved is if a zoning change was needed. For all we know, this zoning change was made a long time ago. You don’t start a multi-million dollar without having the proper zoning in place.

[Bilyclub]

I would think if there was a zoning change done by the Sumter Board it would have been campaign fodder in the recent primary.

[Mleeja]

Originally Posted by Bilyclub

I would think if there was a zoning change done by the Sumter Board it would have been campaign fodder in the recent primary.

No, the ONLY thing the candidates ran on was the tax increase.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by Debelg

The problem that I have with apartments is that , before there were X amount of residents per golf course X amount of residents per swimming pool X amount of residents per rec-center and now there are hundreds of residents that will be added to those same recreation amenities the ratio will no longer be in balance so therefor "YES" it will effect all of us ,just wait until all those nice apartments will be occupied hundreds and hundreds of renters flowing into the amenities and......... Yes I don't like that

I don’t think we really know how many apartments will be on that site. We only know how many amenity slots were released to the developer. Those may only be partially used at the Hacienda site and some used in other areas such as Katie Belle’s.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I wouldn’t bet on it? Maybe part of that premium rate included country club?

It was a restaurant. If the new complex has a restaurant that is open to all Villagers I call it even. If they have to call the restaurant a "country club".... so be it.

[FishnFool]

I found this in the AAC Agenda Request document from 8/12 meeting:

"... As presented, the amended agreement provides VLS the ability to utilize the unused amenity rights for age-restricted units, and to construct additional amenity improvements at no cost to residents and guests in the Village Center District territory and The Villages community at large. If the amenity rights are utilized in this manner, VLS shall construct, at a minimum, a resort-style pool, sport and activity courts, walking paths and open spaces – all of which shall be accessible to residents and guests. Furthermore, the additional amenities would be perpetually maintained by VLS."

No mention of restaurant...

[Goldwingnut]

Originally Posted by FishnFool

I found this in the AAC Agenda Request document from 8/12 meeting:

"... As presented, the amended agreement provides VLS the ability to utilize the unused amenity rights for age-restricted units, and to construct additional amenity improvements at no cost to residents and guests in the Village Center District territory and The Villages community at large. If the amenity rights are utilized in this manner, VLS shall construct, at a minimum, a resort-style pool, sport and activity courts, walking paths and open spaces – all of which shall be accessible to residents and guests. Furthermore, the additional amenities would be perpetually maintained by VLS."

No mention of restaurant...

Simple, restaurants are not amenities, they are private businesses. Just like Katie Belles and the HHCC were private businesses and not amenities.