[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by Tom Hannon

.......Every one of them was as nice or nicer than expected...even Bill of the famous comedy team of Bill & Brillo. ......

I take that as a compliment, Tom! Thanks!

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Ed, take a break if you feel you must. But do stay in touch with TOTV! It's an "ebb and flow" thing - things are always changing! I've always appreciated your posts and your thoughts. They'll be missed.

Bill

[Tom Hannon]

Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo

I take that as a compliment, Tom! Thanks!

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Ed, take a break if you feel you must. But do stay in touch with TOTV! It's an "ebb and flow" thing - things are always changing! I've always appreciated your posts and your thoughts. They'll be missed.

Bill

Exactly what some people complained about. My comment about you was in jest...although some people would flip out and get offended. This is why we need to word out comments carefully. Not knowing of people's reaction.

[swimdawg]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There is being realistic and stating problems and there is negativity and just plain lying about things. There are posters on here that if one person says it is black they are not only going to say it is white but they are going to say it in such a way as to anger everyone.

When I see some names go up, even before I read a post, I can hear a Wagnerian dirge playing in the background and KNOW that there is going to be someone who enjoys it when the Morses do wrong things. They bring up the law suit against the developer that was won by a group of residents and love to talk about the IRS case and like to talk about the Morses and the poaching charges. NONE of these people reveal anything about who they are ever, so they hide behind their anononymity and never come to gatherings and meet other people.

There is a group of people who don't like some things here and don't like the developer and do not see this place as wonderful as I do and who do reveal who they are and I respect them VERY much and they have changed my mind about things too. For instance the debacle about the Relay for Life.

Now that doesn't mean that a lot of positive people don't remain anonymous and never come to gatherings. AND that doesn't mean that how things are run here is perfect and that bad things never happen here or should be hushed up. I think what gets my back up is the JOY these people seem to have when something does go wrong.

This is our hometown now. I think we should do anything we can to keep it safe and nice and pretty and interesting and a place where we can live and welcome our families and new residents. That DOESN'T mean that we should NOT bring things out that are bad, unreasonable, stupid, morally and ethically wrong, badly handled and far, far from perfect.

You can and should be patient with stupid, or lack of abiltiy to grasp a situation. But you shouldn't have to put up with MEANESS on this forum or anywhere. It isn't what you say but how you say it.

And You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear or put lipstick on a pig.

I still say I want to shake Gary Morses hand....and fill his ear about a lot of other things.

Gracie...still a cheerleader.

You won the SWIMDAWG Post of The Day Award....hands down!

You may be in running for The Academy Award of TOTV Posters Award! Get that gown out!

[Larry Wilson]

Hope you realize how many people respect you. Again thank you so much for defending me.

[swimdawg]

Originally Posted by mrs sanborn

Ignore the negativity. This place is amazing. And yes I really do live here!

Great advice. I bet you are from WHEATFIELD! We Wheatfield people like the positives.

I'm so happy you're down there. It's cool, drizzly and dreary up here.

Bring on the sunshine and warmth........next week.......up, up and away!

[Irish Rover]

OK, I hesitate to add to this post but here goes. Over the years this site has gone from very informative to (at times) very argumentative. I try to log on and check the state of the the golf courses, restaurants, and new day trip venues. The group usually gives very subjective info on these topics, but you do have to remember that personal taste enters into descriptions. I feel that the site has become like a "twitter" site in that certain people have an opinion on everything that is posted. At times these useless responses can irk a person and can be misconstrued. I only spend 2 to 3 months a year in TV and love every minute that I am there. I guess if you don't log in as much or don't make it your main social activity the posts won't bother you as much. Just my humble opinion - I love TV.
Irish

[Dennis Ga]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

There is being realistic and stating problems and there is negativity and just plain lying about things. There are posters on here that if one person says it is black they are not only going to say it is white but they are going to say it in such a way as to anger everyone.

When I see some names go up, even before I read a post, I can hear a Wagnerian dirge playing in the background and KNOW that there is going to be someone who enjoys it when the Morses do wrong things. They bring up the law suit against the developer that was won by a group of residents and love to talk about the IRS case and like to talk about the Morses and the poaching charges. NONE of these people reveal anything about who they are ever, so they hide behind their anononymity and never come to gatherings and meet other people.

There is a group of people who don't like some things here and don't like the developer and do not see this place as wonderful as I do and who do reveal who they are and I respect them VERY much and they have changed my mind about things too. For instance the debacle about the Relay for Life.

Now that doesn't mean that a lot of positive people don't remain anonymous and never come to gatherings. AND that doesn't mean that how things are run here is perfect and that bad things never happen here or should be hushed up. I think what gets my back up is the JOY these people seem to have when something does go wrong.

This is our hometown now. I think we should do anything we can to keep it safe and nice and pretty and interesting and a place where we can live and welcome our families and new residents. That DOESN'T mean that we should NOT bring things out that are bad, unreasonable, stupid, morally and ethically wrong, badly handled and far, far from perfect.

You can and should be patient with stupid, or lack of abiltiy to grasp a situation. But you shouldn't have to put up with MEANESS on this forum or anywhere. It isn't what you say but how you say it.

And You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear or put lipstick on a pig.

I still say I want to shake Gary Morses hand....and fill his ear about a lot of other things.

Gracie...still a cheerleader.

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[Number 6]

Originally Posted by swimdawg

Great advice. I bet you are from WHEATFIELD! We Wheatfield people like the positives.

I'm so happy you're down there. It's cool, drizzly and dreary up here.

Bring on the sunshine and warmth........next week.......up, up and away!

Yes, folks from Wheatfield are very nice. I am from the 14001 myslef. OK, we didn't call it that, but it works!

[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

and take a vacation from this board for awhile. Overall lately it is not enhancing my vision of Florida's Friendliest Hometown.

Give my regards to Russ. I miss Russ.

[TomW]

A lot of things here are the result of a community with an older population. Bad driving is typical but actions that would apprear to be agressive driving are mostly confused driving. I was conflicted about whether to be angry or to pity the couple driving the wrong way around the SL square the other day. People who decide to try golf and hope to introduce their wives to the game always choose level 4 exec courses or get the 9:30 tee time on the champ courses. The snowbirds arrive and just stand around in the sports pools and invite their grandkids into the adult pools and don't have a clue to the difference. Otherwise, this is paradise and you can almost duplicate it for an additional $100K per year in another retirement community.

[Taj44]

Originally Posted by TomW

A lot of things here are the result of a community with an older population. Bad driving is typical but actions that would apprear to be agressive driving are mostly confused driving. I was conflicted about whether to be angry or to pity the couple driving the wrong way around the SL square the other day. People who decide to try golf and hope to introduce their wives to the game always choose level 4 exec courses or get the 9:30 tee time on the champ courses. The snowbirds arrive and just stand around in the sports pools and invite their grandkids into the adult pools and don't have a clue to the difference. .....

OMG, you hit the nail on the head!!!! I personally think it is a combination of confused, and that there is also a certain percentage of people out there who really don't care, and think the rules don't apply to them. I've seen them post on TOTV about slow play on the golf course, for example, and their answer is that they're retired, and what's the hurry, and everyone else should slow down. Thankfully people like that are a very small percentage. I think you'll run into things that are less than perfect no matter where you live. I enjoy my time in The Villages in spite of these imperfections, but I do wish some people would try a little harder to learn the basics.

[nitehawk]

Originally Posted by TomW

A lot of things here are the result of a community with an older population. Bad driving is typical but actions that would apprear to be agressive driving are mostly confused driving. I was conflicted about whether to be angry or to pity the couple driving the wrong way around the SL square the other day. People who decide to try golf and hope to introduce their wives to the game always choose level 4 exec courses or get the 9:30 tee time on the champ courses. The snowbirds arrive and just stand around in the sports pools and invite their grandkids into the adult pools and don't have a clue to the difference. Otherwise, this is paradise and you can almost duplicate it for an additional $100K per year in another retirement community.

Originally Posted by Taj44

OMG, you hit the nail on the head!!!! I personally think it is a combination of confused, and that there is also a certain percentage of people out there who really don't care, and think the rules don't apply to them. I've seen them post on TOTV about slow play on the golf course, for example, and their answer is that they're retired, and what's the hurry, and everyone else should slow down. Thankfully people like that are a very small percentage. I think you'll run into things that are less than perfect no matter where you live. I enjoy my time in The Villages in spite of these imperfections, but I do wish some people would try a little harder to learn the basics.

Thanks guys --- well said

[paulandjean]

I think a lot people here,"where big fish in a small pond', they move here and find out they are just a"small fish in a big pond".They cannot understand that they are no longer number 1.

[villagegolfer]

[QUOTE]I may have to join Russ Boston
and take a vacation from this board for awhile. Overall lately it is not enhancing my vision of Florida's Friendliest Hometown.
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[villagegolfer]

Originally Posted by eweissenbach

and take a vacation from this board for awhile. Overall lately it is not enhancing my vision of Florida's Friendliest Hometown.

Why did you start this thread and continue to post?