[TVMayor]

Originally Posted by outlaw

I believe this is an AAC funded project using the money from the $40 million settlement. It is supposed to help alleviate the additional units (about 300 single family plus 300 assisted living?) to be added in Districts 3 and 4.

You should check your facts.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Arctic Fox

I have no idea why the fitness centers charge, but just because they do is not a valid reason for starting down the rocky road of having other facilities charge, too.

The rocky road of charging for facilities has been open for quite a while.
Examples include Fitness Centers, Championship Golf, Online Booking for Executive Golf, charge for use of golf cart, etc., etc.

[Buffalo Jim]

Originally Posted by Villageswimmer

Complainers complaining about "complainers." Anything substantive to add to the discussion?

Yes ------ as I said I doubt very much that it would add more the cost of a postage stamp to your monthly amenity fee .

It`s going to be a fun time here when the Developer turns everything over .

I can hear it now : " We don`t need those flowers , those fountains , all that landscaping along the roadways ".

" We don`t need the common areas along Buena Vista , Morse et al mowed more than once a month a most " .
" We don`t need to water the common areas ". " The trash for the Squares only need be collected every two weeks ".

And on and on it will go .

[Buffalo Jim]

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore

That always cracks me the heck up...regardless of the subject.

I guess some folks just can't see the irony.

I assure you that I saw the irony fully before I typed my first word .

However it remains true that there are a number of people who seem to love to complain about anything and do so very often on this site .

Yes it is their right and for some it is their passion and seems for some to be their number one Village Activity .

Many seem to think everything should be free and others believe that everything / most amenities should be paid for based on a fee per use .

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim

Yes ------ as I said I doubt very much that it would add more the cost of a postage stamp to your monthly amenity fee .

It`s going to be a fun time here when the Developer turns everything over .

I can hear it now : " We don`t need those flowers , those fountains , all that landscaping along the roadways ".

" We don`t need the common areas along Buena Vista , Morse et al mowed more than once a month a most " .
" We don`t need to water the common areas ". " The trash for the Squares only need be collected every two weeks ".

And on and on it will go .

That's a scary thought !! I hope Morse family will be around for a long time!!!

[Arctic Fox]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

The rocky road of charging for facilities has been open for quite a while. Examples include Fitness Centers, Championship Golf, Online Booking for Executive Golf, charge for use of golf cart, etc.

I suspect that they charge when they think they can, and no doubt that will apply to the indoor pool, too.

Personally, I much prefer to swim in an outdoor pool, and would favor their putting a sunshade over one of the older pools - Hacienda or Savannah - rather than building a fully-enclosed pool. Construction costs would be considerably less, and there wouldn't be the humidity problems mentioned in an earlier post. There are probably more "older" residents north of 466 who would benefit from being able to be out of the sun while using a pool.

[graciegirl]

I am surprised that Bogie Shooter hasn't said what he always says.

l. Patience Grasshopper

2. Why don't we wait until this happens before we get all upset? (Or something like it)

Bogie, Please edit.

[goodtimesintv]

Only 40% +/- of residents play golf, and then not all of them are active or even mildly active golfers.

I never see the non-golfers pouting, complaining and pontificating with their superior developer and venture capital management expertise...about how their amenity fees pay for the executive golf courses' management/maintenance costs, while another executive course is always coming and under construction....and they use none of the courses.

People did this same exposition of their superior management knowledge, regarding the developers building the Sharon Morse Performing Arts Center. But they would not see that the developers were building and operating it on the developers' investment capital, and the venue's own self-sustaining revenues, and it continues to do so.

Nobody here seems to know yet whether the indoor pool will be built with its own operational revenue streams. Regulation sized competitive length pools can be rented out by teams, socials, regional championship swim meets, etc.

I think it would be beneficial to villagers if the new indoor pool were to be used by the TV high school swim team and the VAST villagers' swim team for practices, which would free up the sport pools during those times that extend for months.

There's a lot that non-swimmers don't know about such facilities, just as non-golfers don't always know a lot about running golf courses, country clubs, tennis and polo facilities, etc.

I trust the developers to know what they're doing and will ask appropriate consultants about what they don't know.

[maureenod]

Looks like the proposed indoor pool will be very crowded. No swimming, no pool walking and no noodles.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Bonny

That's a scary thought !! I hope Morse family will be around for a long time!!!

Amen to that, Bonny.


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[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim

I assure you that I saw the irony fully before I typed my first word .



However it remains true that there are a number of people who seem to love to complain about anything and do so very often on this site .



Yes it is their right and for some it is their passion and seems for some to be their number one Village Activity .



Many seem to think everything should be free and others believe that everything / most amenities should be paid for based on a fee per use .

BJ - per your post, I would place myself somewhere between the two positions you describe in your last sentence. I think most things should be free, and a small number should have a fee attached to their use. In reality, that's the way it is now isn't it.


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[rubicon]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Only 40% +/- of residents play golf, and then not all of them are active or even mildly active golfers.

I never see the non-golfers pouting, complaining and pontificating with their superior developer and venture capital management expertise...about how their amenity fees pay for the executive golf courses' management/maintenance costs, while another executive course is always coming and under construction....and they use none of the courses.

People did this same exposition of their superior management knowledge, regarding the developers building the Sharon Morse Performing Arts Center. But they would not see that the developers were building and operating it on the developers' investment capital, and the venue's own self-sustaining revenues, and it continues to do so.

Nobody here seems to know yet whether the indoor pool will be built with its own operational revenue streams. Regulation sized competitive length pools can be rented out by teams, socials, regional championship swim meets, etc.

I think it would be beneficial to villagers if the new indoor pool were to be used by the TV high school swim team and the VAST villagers' swim team for practices, which would free up the sport pools during those times that extend for months.

There's a lot that non-swimmers don't know about such facilities, just as non-golfers don't always know a lot about running golf courses, country clubs, tennis and polo facilities, etc.

I trust the developers to know what they're doing and will ask appropriate consultants about what they don't know.

goodtimesintv: In all due respect I believe more than 40% of the people who live here play golf but I'll concede that point. However playing the executive courses is not free. either you pay an additional $141.00 per year plus whatever portion of the amenity fee is applied and unless your a glutton for punishment you need to pony up $8 per month for the tee time scheduling system.

In addition if one wants to play a championship they can buy a priority membership and get a reduced rate or pay the seasonal rate. One could equate the championship courses with indoor pools and the executive courses with rec center pools.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

I question whether those of us who express a concern about how others want to spend our money as being complainers. Its a nice way to stop a discussion isn't it?... One can almost here in the distance the "shut up" I mean if your a complainer how can you possibly have a valid position.

The developer's Wellness Center had an indoor pool. When he announced he was selling it residents using the pool signed a position to stop him from selling the pool. One of the reasons given for selling the pool was that it was too expensive to maintain

so now we have residents demanding an indoor pool one that is expensive to maintain and one that is not going to meet demand or be in a location that suits everyone. and so those more liberal minded residents on this thread it is logical then to build another indoor pool and then another

The Villages of Lakes Sumter, Inc (TVLSI) ( developer) has a concept for this pool. Perhaps its completed but to us its still in the planning stage. I believe its the former

As one probably labeled a complainer I am going to go with my gut and it tells me TVLSI is raising a wet index finger to see which way the winds are blowing before proceeding. In the case I am right this complainer want TVLSI to know that I wish them well and a profitable venture but I don't want to use their indoor pool nor do I don't want to pay for its construction, maintaining and operating costs And TVLSI I'll bet further that your focus groups also told you that charging for membership is the best way to separate those who really want/need an indoor pool and willbe willing to pay your membership fees for it use

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by rubicon

goodtimesintv: In all due respect I believe more than 40% of the people who live here play golf but I'll concede that point. However playing the executive courses is not free. either you pay an additional $141.00 per year plus whatever portion of the amenity fee is applied and unless your a glutton for punishment you need to pony up $8 per month for the tee time scheduling system.

In addition if one wants to play a championship they can buy a priority membership and get a reduced rate or pay the seasonal rate. One could equate the championship courses with indoor pools and the executive courses with rec center pools.

Personal Best Regards:

Actually, if you walk the courses and use the phone to schedule tee times, there is no additional money you would have to pay.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by rubicon

...playing the executive courses is not free...

Always love this old, oft-repeated argument.

I don't think a single golfer in TV, or people considering moving to TV, is unaware that somewhere in their various fees is payment for golf. Just as there is payment for all TV amenities...not a single one of which is used by everyone who pays for it.

But as long as I don't have to pay one additional cent to play executive golf over and above what I would have to pay if I never played golf, I will continue to call it free...fully aware of all costs I pay to live here.